The Pirate Bay - 9 years and still bloody runnin

Lol, Enta. I bailed on them when they cut my connection after one of those silly letters from US lawyers, because my wife had downloaded "Nurse Betty" here in UK.

Now i'm on Virgin, on a much faster connection. piratebay is "blocked" but i just use one of the 99 mirrors around and life is good.

tomjen3• 14 years ago

Same shit in Denmark.

Oh was, now I run Google DNS.

gglanzani• 14 years ago

Here's a shell script (last line Mac-only) to open the pirate bay, regardless of the block (at least in the Netherlands).

bartligthart• 14 years ago

(http://fucktimkuik.org)

toyg2• 14 years ago

Use http://tpb.pirateparty.org.uk

mattvot• 14 years ago

Proxy http://tpb.pirateparty.org.uk/blog/222

Garbage• 14 years ago

For the people, who can't access the direct site, here is the text of the blog:

http://pastebin.com/DQLYkTnL

vidarh3• 14 years ago

Or just go to: http://tpb.pirateparty.org.uk/blog

(proxy operated by the UK Pirate Party)

klrr7• 14 years ago

I don't support illegal activity, but I believe this is a quest of freedom, not for getting stuff free as in free beer.

duairc• 14 years ago

Why don't you support illegal activity?

why-el2• 14 years ago

I don't know why you are downvoted. This is a valid question.

hmottestad• 14 years ago

I'm not the OP, but here is my opinion. As a rule of thumb I don't support illegal activities. Why would I? Most of the laws I agree with, like no murder/rape/robbery. However some laws I'm against. Like the public drinking ban in Norway, why can't I have a beer by the lake?

And on the topic of media industries vs. file sharing. I haven't really made up my mind. Especially after the media industry brought tanks and fighter jets to a knife fight.

klrr7• 14 years ago

I dislike illegal activities but I don't think many things around this is illegal. Note that TPB doesn't host any illegal copies, they doesn't distribute any either. The only illegal is the users themselfs.

praptak• 14 years ago

I believe that, in general, supporting the law is good. Even in case of laws one deems silly. Even in a country where the lawmaking is somewhat corrupt.

Getting picky about which laws I obey would contribute towards social climate of not respecting the law in general. There are countries like that and their societies suffer as a result.

On the other hand for some laws the benefits of breaking them outweigh the above downsides.

johncoltrane• 14 years ago

I support any activity that fits into my own set of moral rules.

Some activities are illegal but I support them because I don't see them as immoral. Other activities are perfectly legal but I don't support them because I see them as immoral.

rz2k• 14 years ago

Typically that's part of belonging to a community.

Are you morally free to kill your guards if you are in prison through a failure of the judicial system? I don't think you are.

How about if you are in a death camp, where your government has not made a mistake, but is executing its legislatively determined plan of genocide? I think you are morally free to kill your guards in that case.

I also think you are morally free to rob a store for medical supplies during a natural disaster, but not morally free to rob a bank to pay for a relative's life-saving surgery.

When to break the law should be a conscious decision, consistent with some framework of ultimate costs and benefits to yourself, your society and beliefs, not merely opportunism or a universal refusal to ever defer to the rest of the community's decisions.

why-el2• 14 years ago

I don't agree. Sometimes it makes a lot of sense to support illegal activity (It's too trivial to site examples from US history).

dpkendal• 14 years ago

The Underground Railroad. Prohibition. Hush-A-Phone. The Communications Decency Act. Crypto export regulations.

Breaking DRM.

lumberjack2• 14 years ago

I disagree. Free software projects like the GNU foundation or the OpenBSD foundation are striving towards freedom.

ThePirateBay.se et al are simply filling in on market demand created by the utter absurdity of treating digital data as if it was a can of tomatoes or a bag of crisps.

klrr7• 14 years ago

There is no "FOSS", Free Software is software which respects the users freedom, Open-Source software is software which allow the ability to study the source code(not that some Open-Source licenses is kinda like Free Software licenses too, but some are even similar to non-free software). They are two completely different things. Yes, I support FSF and GNU more than TPB of course.

ioquatix• 14 years ago

Actually, if the app I just bought off the app store was a "can of tomatoes", couldn't I use it on any device of my choosing, give it to my friend or include it as part of my estate as a gift to my children?

The absurdity is that we are consumers not customers. We have no rights except the bare minimum. We are sold on the dream and yet we will all experience a rude awakening (this part is never advertised).

tptacek4• 14 years ago

Sounds great. The big bad record companies can't treat music like a bag of crisps. Neither can independent artists. Neither can Notch, because a game is no more like a bag of crisps than a CD track.

paul9290• 14 years ago

I support it for the sheer fact that it has forced copyright to offer digital alternatives in a quicker manner here in the states - i.e. Hulu.

FOr those who dont have access to Hulu and other similar services that's not your fault and I say keep downloading torrents!

propercoil• 14 years ago

who says it's illegal? your "democratic" government? these "laws" are unconstitutional thus irrelevant like "laws" made by the Nazis in 1943. You would not give shelter to a jew now would you!? it's illegal! same stuff in a different coating and a different mask - you swallow it like a good boy

carbocation2• 14 years ago

Lawyers talk about malum in se (bad, in itself) and malum prohibitum (bad, because we have prohibited it). I think these are useful concepts, even if we choose not to use the terms.

Mala in se I (tautologically, perhaps?) don't support. For mala prohibita, it really depends on context.

jsilence• 14 years ago

Interresting distinction. Raises the question why we are prohibiting things that are not malum in se.

XiaoPing• 14 years ago

Yes, I cannot believe that those guys are still running. Amazing.

vidarh3• 14 years ago

The things that's truly amazing is just how inept the attempts at getting them blocked are.

In the UK, the big ISPs initially at least blocked only a single IP, so TPB have changed IPs a few times. Each time to a new IP in the /24 network block registered to them. Why the entire /24 didn't get blocked in the first case is beyond me.

Not that it'd have helped given the massive number of proxies, but it doesn't look like they were even trying.

seunosewa• 14 years ago

It makes perfect sense. ISPs don't want to block their customers, so they do the least they could get away with doing.

MengYuanLong• 14 years ago

I speculate that it may be an attempt to stem movement to the significant number of private trackers that dependably provide higher quality torrents earlier than public sites. Allowing TPB to stay up means that people must sort through muck and viruses to locate the content they want. For many, that is enough and they don't bother looking a little deeper.

Lol, but that is 'conspiracy-esque' speculation.

lucb1e• 14 years ago

HTTP proxy for people who got TPB blocked: http://thepiratebay.se.ipv4.sixxs.org/blog/222

necenzurat• 14 years ago

i poste the same fucking shit 8 hours ago and NO VOTES, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4525973 WTF?

weaksauce• 14 years ago

That's 6am PST.(where silicon valley is) Not a lot of people are up at that time here reading hacker news. Also, the new page tends to get overrun with new items quite quickly and sometimes an article does not get steam.

But frankly your tone is not one that many here care for so please refrain. Also, please refrain from meta commentary; it's just noise.

mehulkar• 14 years ago

"You can accomplish anything you want in life provided you don't mind who gets the credit." - Harry Truman

prawn• 14 years ago

Just stop for a second and realise you're upset over missing out on some virtual Internet points. Your life will be OK!

nacker• 14 years ago

Thank God for the renegades, and the lives they lead Far ahead of their time

Without the renegades, Lord knows where we'd be When it comes to heroes, Renegades are mine

They railed against the crown, Another rag tag band Declaring Independence

They laid their bodies down, won a bloody war, And liberty for their descendents

Thanks to the renegades, we're free today

Thank god for the renegades, and the lives they lead Far ahead of their time

Without the renegades, Lord knows where we'd be

When it comes to heroes, Renegades are mine

Where are the renegades in the world today?

Who are the renegades in the world today?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPgo9aHnqHI

And I am strangely impelled to add this link:

http://pt.scribd.com/doc/3230/Robert-Crumb-The-Religious-Exp...

The Empire Never Ended!

The Pirate Bay - 9 years and still bloody runnin

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