Nissan eyes shifting Rogue production to U.S. due to tariffs

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Transportation/Nissan-eyes-shifting-Rogue-production-to-U.S.-due-to-Trump-tariffs

by geox • 1 year ago

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When everything is produced on US soil, what stops the US from proclaiming that "What stands on US soil is owned by the US" and all the investments foreigners did were for nothing?

toomuchtodo• 1 year ago

Nothing. Build elsewhere and accept the loss of the market as a risk reduction premium.

focusgroup0• 1 year ago

Remember what happened to ARM?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28329731

jxjnskkzxxhx• 1 year ago

Wild read, thanks for sharing.

RickJWagner• 1 year ago

I have no idea why you’ve been downvoted.

Downvotes are now a measure of emotion more than anything else. Validity isn’t a consideration.

credit_guy2• 1 year ago

Maybe the US Constitution?

vander_elst• 1 year ago

Serious and genuine question, how? It seems that some of the layoffs in the administration might be illegal, however they still happened and there are no legal consequences yet. High ranked officials discussing national security matters on non approved platforms *is* illegal, yet nothing happened and I bet nothing will happen at all. Given this background, how will the Constitution prevent such a case?

lumost• 1 year ago

Same thing that stops other countries from doing this. It would create a (multi) generational block against all foreign investment and devastating sanctions.

Cuba did this as part of the revolution. The nationalization of American owned businesses was a major contributor to later hostilities. We don't have an embargo on Russia, yet we still maintain the trade embargo on Cuba.

t-writescode2• 1 year ago

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everyone• 1 year ago

Russia actually did do that recently though right? "What stands on Russian soil is owned by Russia" And the US still trades with them, and seems to really want a closer relationship.

ArtTimeInvestor2• 1 year ago

What type of investments would a USA that produces everything themselves need?

What type of sanctions would it fear?

SiempreViernes• 1 year ago

Under this administration? Mainly that Trump doesn't want to directly own everything.

What's stopping the current admin from saying "we don't like you, you gotta sell", now that's another question! Currently the main answer is "your willingness to pay bribes".

dpratt• 1 year ago

In the same range of the probability of it happening anywhere else, but (if you’re honest with yourself) a bit lower. Seizure of property and/or nationalization of whole industries is not a novel concept.

postepowanieadm• 1 year ago

Like what China does? ARM is well known example.

spwa4• 1 year ago

You just found the central tactic China has been using for 10+ years now.

kgwxd• 1 year ago

Any business shifting to the US right now will just be part of the corruption. Everyone else will avoid the US for a very long time.

3eb7988a16633• 1 year ago

Is that actually feasible or just marketing copy? Moving car production sounds like a multi-year effort. The latest tariff numbers might not even last the week.

Or is this one of a, "99% constructed in Japan, but we attached the wiper blades in the USA" kind of manufacturing move?

alephnerd4• 1 year ago

a, "99% constructed in Japan, but we attached the wiper blades in the USA" kind of manufacturing move

CDKs would still be hit by the 25% auto tariff (unrelated to the country level tariffs).

It's already been manufactured in Tennessee since 2023, so what's most likely happening is Nissan will stop shipping parts from Japan and rely solely on their NAM supply chain.

Is that actually feasible or just marketing copy

Most likely depends on scale. Most firms at Nissan size began building redundancy plans during COVID due to supply chain instability.

3eb7988a16633• 1 year ago

I guess I am pre-disposed to believe there might be clever ways around it. I thought Ford was caught doing cute things to avoid the chicken tax by converting vans to trucks.

adra• 1 year ago

You know, the Nissan that has two feet i to the grave... I Surrre.

tartoran• 1 year ago

Too bad, I rather like Nissan.

t-writescode2• 1 year ago

This whole posting is 74 words, which I imagine is about the total amount of quotable thought Nissan has given to the topic.

Given:

  * how long it would take to set up new manufacturing
  * how volatile constant changes are with boundless, randomized tariffs
    (it's only been 3 months, y'all)
  * how recent this newest set of tariffs are

How can this article be anything more than 74 words built from 3 words overheard at a coffee shop?

alephnerd4• 1 year ago

This whole posting is 74 words, which I imagine is about the total amount of quotable thought Nissan has given to the topic.

Nikkei is Japan's Financial Times (they own that too) or Wall Street Journal, so they have a strong relationship with Japanese, Chinese, Korean, ASEAN, and Indian businesses and policymakers.

Nikkei is easily the best source of English language business news in APAC.

There also wasn't any reference to "coffee shops" in the article either.

alephnerd4• 1 year ago

For reference, Nissan has been manufacturing the Rogue (and a number of their other models) in their Tennessee factory since 2023.

What this is saying is they will stop co-mingling parts from their Japan, Thailand, China, and India suppliers, and stick to using their NAM suppliers.

casenmgreen• 1 year ago

Sounds risky : what happens if you do all the work to shift production to USA, and then Donald revokes tariffs?

lobsterthief3• 1 year ago

According to many economists, this is a major reason why the tariffs won’t work.

foogazi• 1 year ago

There are American made cars already

Wouldn’t they just keep making them in the US ?

outer_web3• 1 year ago

Note this isn't an announcement of a new factory but rather moving production of their most popular model out of Japan.

TIL Nissan considers the Rogue their flagship model and they still make vehicles in Japan.

lobsterthief3• 1 year ago

That’s unfortunate since the Rogue is pretty awful in terms of build quality. Popular in the US though

BuckRogers• 1 year ago

He said this is what would happen. I voted for him. And it’s happening. Nothing to be upset about. Even his deranged haters, some who have tried to murder him at least twice now and attack American Teslas, are going to benefit.

lobsterthief3• 1 year ago

Some who

2 people (one claims he voted for Trump in 2016)

attack American teslas

Also a small number of people who have actually “attacked” Teslas

commiepatrol• 1 year ago

It takes time, it will happen.

Nissan eyes shifting Rogue production to U.S. due to tariffs

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