No One Lives Forever (NOLF) Revival Edition

by Lammy • 1 year ago

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wvbdmp• 1 year ago

I own both games on disc and played part of the first one a couple of years ago on Windows 10. Absolutely stellar game, I’ve always meant to finish one of these days and get to the sequel…

IIRC it did indeed require some fiddling with config files and maybe even community patches to get a wide aspect ratio to work, and weapon viewmodels would still end up stretched.

Highly recommend giving these games a shot!

The legality of this seems questionable, though? The site itself doesn’t appear to acknowledge anything related to that.

AndrewDucker• 1 year ago

Not just questionable - the rights to the game will either be with Monolith (now Warner Brothers) or with Fox Interactive (now Disney).

I hope that whoever set this site up has protected their identity...

maximilianburke3• 1 year ago

There's an issue with the rights to the No One Lives Forever games which is why it hasn't re-appeared on Steam (et al). Nightdive Studios tried to get the rights to republish it but couldn't nail down between these parties who actually had the rights to the game and could authorize this.

chneu• 1 year ago

If the owner of the IP doesn't enforce their ownership of the IP then there isn't much to do about it. This is pretty common in the "abandonware" gaming community. Lots of old games are technically piracy but nobody cares.

poisonwomb• 1 year ago

My understanding of this is that no one will actually confess to owning the IP, so this project also serves the purpose of baiting someone to actually come forward and submit a takedown notice as that would presumably reveal who owns it

swhitf• 1 year ago

I haven't seen a .tk domain in probably 20 years. It was super popular with young gamers during the early 00s due to the free domain. What a blast from the past!

Also a blast from the past, the OMM review of NOLF: https://www.oldmanmurray.com/longreviews/751.html

joecool1029• 1 year ago

Probably won't see it for much longer. Once it expires it's impossible to renew now even if paid: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2023/03/sued-by-meta-freenom-hal...

michaelbuckbee• 1 year ago

These games were great. They really pushed the style and creativity of first-person shooters forward with their level and mission design.

magic_hamster• 1 year ago

What a great game series. This really shows what an innovative and campy gaming industry we used to have. You don't see games like this anymore, especially not from big studios. Maybe in the indie scene - but mostly not in the same scope.

throaway892• 1 year ago

Yes, not just creativity but actual humour and experimentation! Not to mention taste.

keyringlight• 1 year ago

Underneath the campy humor and old spy movie/TV series references, there was a number of elements on spying, about manipulating and using people, attitudes to women, the dull work spying is for the non-super spies. and so on. If someone was to make a follow-up, I don't think a NOLF copy/paste would do so well beyond pure nostalgia (and I don't think NOLF ever set the world on fire with its sales), but there's enough substance there where they could make something interesting playing it straight.

fmajid• 1 year ago

NOLF2 was hilarious. The samurai sword fiht in a trailer park while a hurricane blows through it! The fight against French mimes toting machine guns (Ah, ze pain is unbearable)!

skibz• 1 year ago

I feel compelled to say that NOLF is awesome, and it's also source-available:

- https://web.archive.org/web/20020217233624/http://pc.ign.com...

- https://web.archive.org/web/20010720053220/http://noonelives...

- https://github.com/osgcc/no-one-lives-forever

- https://github.com/haekb/nolf1-modernizer

Please be careful using a release distributed on a site without TLS and links to other certain well-known file sharing sites.

NikolaNovak• 1 year ago

This is my number one question - how to trust the executables from here :-/

kennysoona• 1 year ago

You don't have to trust them to run them. Run them in a VM or sandbox.

Lammy• 1 year ago

Don't worry about the FUD imho https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty,_and_doubt

Personally I would trust a fan-made work distributed through MediaFire and MEGA (and there is nothing wrong with these services!) more than some corporate re-release riddled with DRM and “““analytics””” (the word we've collectively agreed to pretend doesn't mean “spying” lol)

Spastche• 1 year ago

that site has been around for quite a while, it's legitimate

rightbyte2• 1 year ago

I mean, NOLF was way ahead of its time. A parody that also was a really good game. Like, a parody that was not sarcastic or ironic. It is hard to describe.

SahAssar• 1 year ago

Pastiche, perhaps?

magicalhippo4• 1 year ago

Monolith[1] made some of my favorite games growing up.

It started with Shogo, but also No One Lives Forever, Tron 2.0 and F.E.A.R. left deep impressions.

What stood out was the combination of their well-done 3D engine with world building and art direction.

It wasn't the same from game to game, each game had their very distinct feel, and always interesting.

And I think few shooters have as good enemy AI as the goal-oriented[1] ones in F.E.A.R. (sadly not used in the sequels)

Good times, good times...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monolith_Productions

[2] https://www.gamedeveloper.com/design/building-the-ai-of-f-e-...

nullify882• 1 year ago

Condemned was pretty atmospheric too. Good to see they are still making games.

nullify882• 1 year ago

This comment didn't age well. WB has closed down Monolith :(

TheRealDunkirk• 1 year ago

Tron 2.0 was great, and another game that has been lost to time. I got the Steam version working with a hack many years ago, but I doubt it would still work. That's another one that could use the same treatment as this version of NOLF!

magicalhippo4• 1 year ago

Indeed! It has great world-building, with lots of fun details. The disc throwing was also a bit different from a straight up shooter.

I played it again some years ago but it was flaky, so yeah some TLC would be great.

pathartl• 1 year ago

Eh, LithTech was fairly impressive for the time, but I wouldn't necessarily call it good. It is incredibly fragile. I've been working on creating a library of games that works on modern platforms. LithTech games have taken at least 3-4 times longer because of frequent crashing.

magicalhippo4• 1 year ago

Fair point, perhaps some rose-tinted glasses there. I do recall the graphics being very good at the time.

Beijinger2• 1 year ago

Can I run this under linux?

IlikeKitties• 1 year ago

Yes trivially with wine and dxvk

Beijinger2• 1 year ago

Count me in.

thehoagie2• 1 year ago

Works for me on GE-Proton 9.9 . If you use Lutris there is even an installer for this already: https://lutris.net/games?q=no+one+lives+forever

thehoagie2• 1 year ago

Sorry this was not Proton - this was system WINE version 9

phendrenad2• 1 year ago

Hilarious, hilarious game. Nightdive Studios, known for remastering old games such as System Shock, Doom 64, and Turok, tried their hardest to get the rights to the game, but apparently nobody knows who owns it! https://kotaku.com/the-sad-story-behind-a-dead-pc-game-that-...

throaway892• 1 year ago

Wow I remember when this came out. Finding the different clues on the ground was pretty amazing back then. I played that PC Gamer demo over and over and over.

romanhn• 1 year ago

Oh wow, outstanding game. One of very few games I played through to the end. Reminisced about it recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41753079.

AdmiralAsshat• 1 year ago

This game is on GOG's "Dreamlist" of games to preserve on their platform, so if you're interested in playing it, vote for it!

https://www.gog.com/dreamlist/game/the-operative-no-one-live...

vonunov• 1 year ago

Here, have some fresh NOLF-inspired tunes while you revisit (I had Ba De Dum stuck in my head, lol):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wry0IKvcjF4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22CbAsfAV6M

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