Apple sued for abandoning on-device CSAM monitoring tech in 2021

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/08/technology/apple-child-sexual-abuse-material-lawsuit.html

by ComputerGuru • 2 years ago

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IndrekR• 2 years ago

https://archive.ph/1xCvh

ThePowerOfFuet• 2 years ago

After a dozen ReCaptcha challenges in a row, I gave up. Thanks anyway.

nimish• 2 years ago

Sued for providing false hope? Why is that lawsuit worthy?

Manuel_D• 2 years ago

So they wouldn't have been sued if they just never pursued on device monitoring in the first place? Or is this going to be a new requirement for all smartphones moving forward?

Aloisius• 2 years ago

Regardless of the merits of the suit, you really couldn’t ask for worse PR.

I don’t know if it’ll be enough to pressure Apple into complying given the backlash that caused them to abandon device scanning in the first place.

rdm_blackhole2• 2 years ago

They won't have to do anything. They will let the EU force their hand on the issue via Chat Control and then claim they have no choice but to comply.

rdm_blackhole2• 2 years ago

I am sorry for the victims of abuse but this lawsuit is nonsensical.

There is plenty of bad things happening inside people's homes, should we start putting cameras in every home on the planet to deter these crimes?

I mean where does it stop?

palata3• 2 years ago

Those people probably believe that it is possible to put cameras in every home in a fundamentally privacy-preserving way...

SSchick• 2 years ago

This suit seems to be in bad-faith.

Apple actively pursuited this tech but that backlash from the general population due to privacy concerns was simply too high, so they made a business decision to respect peoples privacy (and their bottom line at that).

I feel for the victims of child abuse but forcing device manufacturers to monitor everyone without warrant is an enormous violation of privacy.

CharlesW3• 2 years ago

…so they made a business decision to respect peoples privacy (and their bottom line at that).

For the record, Apple abandoned this on-device technique because of bad press, even though it would've been more privacy-preserving than the in-cloud scanning that virtually all image hosts do today.

JoshTriplett2• 2 years ago

even though it would've been more privacy-preserving than the in-cloud scanning that virtually all image hosts do today

You can opt out of in-cloud scanning by not using the cloud, or selecting a different service.

rangestransform• 2 years ago

How about the device I own never do anything, ever to incriminate me

In fact, if I own a device, it should by default do everything legal to obstruct law enforcement efforts against me because I own it and it should serve me

bitbasher• 2 years ago

There's a part of me thinking the lawsuit was pushed forward by government plants in hopes of getting Apple to revisit the tech.

palata3• 2 years ago

Let me start with this: I believe that the suit makes no sense.

The problem is that those people see a real problem (CSAM), want a solution to it, but are not open to the fact that there may not be an acceptable solution. Usually because they don't understand the solution and go with "I don't care how it's done; we are in 2024, it should be possible".

strogonoff• 2 years ago

For all the people blaming big government’s surveillance intent for Apple’s CSAM scanning initiative, here is a lawsuit by the actual victims, and yet the techbro crowd still finds ways to paint it as pure surveillance and to avoid responsibility for the harm and suffering e2ee platforms enable and profit from.

Apple sued for abandoning on-device CSAM monitoring tech in 2021

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