Hetzner Considered Hostile: A PSA

https://tenforward.blog/hetzner-considered-hostile-a-psa/

by ggpsv • 2 years ago

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Hackbraten• 2 years ago

How can OP be so sure that this is actual hostile behavior rather than an honest mistake on Hetzner's side?

Sure, they could have made a DNS lookup to avoid that misunderstanding. However, who knows the volume of tickets their support people are dealing with.

From that single incident alone, I'm not entirely convinced about Hetzner being hostile.

yorwba• 2 years ago

I don't think Hetzner made a mistake. The author does not dispute that they published porn on their website, they only claim that this doesn't violate Hetzner's terms because they used a non-Hetzner CDN to store that content.

But Hetzner prohibits their customers from publishing porn, not just from storing it on their servers. If you point your browser at a Hetzner-hosted website and it shows porn, they don't care whether those files are stored elsewhere or not, porn website is porn website.

kstrauser• 2 years ago

What that misses is that the author is hosting a Mastodon server, so those images don't even have to originate from their own website. If I hosted a porn account on my server and one of the author's users followed it, they'd see the images served from the author's server[0] even though that's not where it came from.

It would be like emailing porn to someone and then filing an abuse claim to their email host that their account has porn in it. Well, yeah, but they didn't put it there.

[0] This is the default in the Mastodon software, and it's a good thing. If one of my posts goes viral, my poor little server won't get flooded with O(num_followers) requests, but O(num_of_servers_with_followers) which is going to be a tiny fraction of the size. Admins can turn that behavior off on a per-server basis.

Tomte• 2 years ago

That‘s just sophistry. The Mastodon server hosted at Hetzner shows pornographic images. Who cares where the img src= points at?

Willful breaking of ToS results in a terminated contract. Surprise!

codingdave• 2 years ago

I responded within 5 minutes with a statement that simply stated that I contest everything in this false report.

And yet writes up a blog post that clearly explains that their porn was on S3, not Hetzner. Sounds like the report was accurate. But it makes me wonder what the result would have been had they taken the time to have that conversation to begin with.

Hetzner Considered Hostile: A PSA

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