France's oldest treasure hunt has been solved

We "chouettistes" are thirsty for more as well. There is almost a cult growing out of some hypothesis, we are waiting for the confirmed solutions a bit like the second coming.

frereubu• 2 years ago

Reminds me very much of the Masquerade book in the UK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masquerade_(book)

Rygian• 2 years ago

I initially confused the title with Maskerade: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maskerade

JKCalhoun• 2 years ago

That's right. Masquerade by Kit Williams [1] was a phenomena in 1979 - a book of weird illustrations that somehow contained a puzzle as to where a golden hare was buried.

Even a fifteen year-old living in Kansas at the time was drawn to it, got caught up in it.

The golden hare was found after a few years — the whole story of the hare and its finding are well documented in the book by Bamber Gascoigne, Quest for the Golden Hare [2].

The account is a fun read: why Kit decided on buried treasure, how he went about creating the artwork/puzzle, the adventure of burying the rabbit.... But far and away the most fascinating bit describes the various treasure-hunters that then came after the hare.

The party that solved the puzzle did not find the hare. The party that dug it up had not solved the puzzle.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masquerade_(book)

[2] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1176887.Quest_for_the_Go...

Short summary of the whole escapade here: https://youtu.be/3yaHBdhIsCo

glimshe• 2 years ago

And here is a very well written summary: https://www.filfre.net/2016/05/kit-williamss-golden-hare-par...

joncrocks• 2 years ago

Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perplex_City

NikkiA• 2 years ago

And https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimania

haunter• 2 years ago

The actual post https://goldenowlhunt.com/the-golden-owl-is-won-after-31-yea...

https://i.imgur.com/ecJeMB7.png

Apocryphon• 2 years ago

How charming that this event organized in the early '90s is now on Discord.

iLoveOncall• 2 years ago

Note that the ACTUAL organizer of the treasure hunt is not Michel Becker, but Régis Hauser (aka Max Valentin) who died more than 10 years ago.

Michel Becker only helped illustrate the book that is the support for the hunt and has taken over it when he passed.

As far as I know this was quite controversial because he had not knowledge about the riddles or how to solve them, and was only able to take over because there was a notarized enveloped left behind by the original creator which explained everything.

RandomThoughts3• 2 years ago

Could you explain more because the author passed away and left the solutions to the riddles in a notarised envelope to a close collaborator who worked on another part of the book so the hunt could live on - the solution is finally found by an unrelated party a whole decade later - doesn’t seem notably controversial to me?

Naklin• 2 years ago

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Trail_of_the_Golden_Owl...

There are more details on the french wikipedia article but basically Michel Becker did everything he could to make money out of the success of the treasure hunt, doing things that were either unethical or deemed contrary to the true creator's original intent. This included taking possession of the solution which wasn't meant for him to get, trying to sell the prize for himself and releasing new clues to renew interest in the hunt which he was still profiting from in different ways.

dudul• 2 years ago

Damn! Just when I was getting back into it with my 9yo son :(

k2xl• 2 years ago

Could o1 have helped the hunters finally reach it?

arnaudsm• 2 years ago

I tried, it solved a few steps and was quite impressive! It's really good at riddles and associating random concepts.

It got stuck when it had to calculate directions though.

SeaGully2• 2 years ago

My experience with using LLMs for things like MIT Mystery Hunt is touch and go.

On most of them I've tried it doesn't seem to do much, but I do now use them to try and get crossword clues where I know bits that are often too abstract for crossword solvers.

e.g. "a word that is six letters, is related to royalty, and has a state abbreviation in it" (this isn't a real clue, just an example of a clue that an LLM is much better suited than something like Nutrimatic or a crossword solver)

I would be curious to hear if / how others us LLMs for abstract riddles/puzzles like that though.

whiplash4512• 2 years ago

Not sure why you got downvoted.

It is not crazy to imagine that LLMs could have helped explore the solution space.

(not necessarily solving it directly)

Pinus• 2 years ago

Unlike the Midsomer Murders plot, the organizer died from natural causes. :)

vlovich123• 2 years ago

In 2021 Michel Becker became the official organiser of the treasure hunt, obtaining the sealed envelope containing the hunt solution from the family of Régis Hauser. Becker journeyed with a legal bailiff to check that the owl prize was still buried at the location revealed in the solution. He reported that when he dug at the spot he found the owl missing and instead found a rusty iron bird. He replaced this rusty bird with a new bronze owl so that the treasure hunt could continue

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Trail_of_the_Golden_O...

Sounds like somebody actually had already solved it?

_notreallyme_2• 2 years ago

The english version is weird. It was planned from the beggining that they would bury a bronze owl.

The bronze owl was to be exchanged with the precious metal one. In the french news, they specifically mentioned that the bronze one was found.

If you think about it, it makes more sense. The co-founder was given the rights to the original treasure hunt because he is the owner of the valuable owl. He is the one who financed the whole thing.

supergarfield• 2 years ago

The French Wikipedia page doesn't talk about it, but the quoted text from the English Wikipedia page involving an iron bird (and not a bronze owl) is accurate. Here's the official report of finding it: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0511/4586/7430/files/pv.co... (liked from https://editions-chouettedor.com/pages/documents-officiels).

aredox2• 2 years ago

No, what is means is that at the location, the stand-in for the golden owl was rusted.

The creator of treasure hunt didn't bury the actual golden owl, to keep the artwork clean and to force the finder to reveal that he/she has indeed solved the puzzle, and not just stumbled upon it.

kulahan2• 2 years ago

Isn't gold pretty much the one thing you wouldn't need to worry about keeping clean if you buried it?

card_zero• 2 years ago

That is confusingly low on details. I added "speculated to be a replacement left by Hauser" (the creator), as the source says.

kaffekaka• 2 years ago

Similar: the Forrest Fenn treasure https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenn_treasure

SeaGully2• 2 years ago

Reminds me a bit of Alkemstone. I went snooping about old games magazines from the early 80s and there was an advert for the prize for that game (it really is just a maze with a series of clues). The ultimate solution was to be a location of the Alkemstone (presumably a fake gem) which one would exchange for the prize.

I think the guy who created it died long ago and the legal office which was meant to verify the prize is also maybe defunct (?). I'm also skeptical the "stone" would be wherever it was meant to be at this point anyways (similar to a number of the boxes from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_(treasure_hunt) are theorized to be now inaccessible or destroyed).

Anyways, people are still trying to solve it. Last I heard someone claimed that they and their friends had paired all the clues in some way and were close to solving it, but they were very cagey about it. That was over a year ago I think.

https://bluerenga.blog/2021/07/27/alkemstone-all-the-clues/

ahazred8ta• 2 years ago

In the early 80s the RPG company Metagaming (Melee / The Fantasy Trip / SJG) buried a silver unicorn. https://web.archive.org/web/20170619201458/https://goodman-g...

whiplash4512• 2 years ago

If true, this is huge.

Some people spent decades and counting on this hunt.

To some extent, it will be a relief to them that the hunt is over.

kulahan2• 2 years ago

I love these ongoing puzzles. For some reason, this brings Cicada 3301 to mind. I never heard many details about that beyond its existence and some theories behind what it meant.

BrandoElFollito• 2 years ago

I did geocaching with my kids when they were small - it was great. We were walking in new places and discovering areas we had no idea about. Great times.

We even had geotags that were supposed to travel the world but we somehow lost them. We also had a cache.

We do not do that anymore but when I am somewhere I sometimes check for caches, for the nostalgia.

France's oldest treasure hunt has been solved

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