Boeing employees 'humiliated' that upstart rival SpaceX will rescue astronauts

https://nypost.com/2024/08/25/us-news/boeing-employees-humiliated-that-spacex-will-save-astronauts-stuck-in-space/

by TMWNN • 2 years ago

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TMWNN• 2 years ago

Title altered from original "Boeing employees 'humiliated' that upstart rival SpaceX will rescue astronauts stuck in space: 'It's shameful'" because of length.

TheCleric• 2 years ago

They should just be humiliated to work at Boeing at this point.

SMAAART• 2 years ago

Oh no!

Anyway.

AtlasBarfed3• 2 years ago

Yeah, uh WHICH employees?

Because Boeing is not an engineering led company. It is a bunch of scum sucking MBAs that attached themselves to a once-successful company and undermined any engineering focus, professionalism, and ethics from the entire management chain.

We're talking about a company that has murdered whistleblowers in all likelihood: https://slate.com/technology/2024/05/boeing-deaths-whistlebl...

This is a fundamentally amoral and corrupt company that should have executives in criminal jail.

SapporoChris2• 2 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Barnett_(whistleblower)#D... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Barnett_(whistleblower)#C...

I can't embrace conspiracy theories.

AtlasBarfed3• 2 years ago

I embrace statistics.

Two whistleblowers, two premature deaths.

lucasyvas• 2 years ago

They have their own PR issues and don’t need two dead astronauts,” he added. “But we didn’t think that there would be dead astronauts. We’d never have recommended that they use us if they thought that it was going to be unsafe for them.

I’m gonna go with NASA on this one I think haha.

sorokod• 2 years ago

Apparently the entire narrative is built around statments made by "one worker" sometimes referred to as "the employee"

- what sort of news org is New York Post?

mkoryak• 2 years ago

It's a tabloid.

ars• 2 years ago

Whenever newspapers quote an "anonymous source" it's often just some random guy on Reddit or X.

Personally I think anonymous sources should be socially unacceptable in a real newspaper.

Doxin• 2 years ago

Anonymous sources are fine if you can rely on the news outlet vetting them. Of course these days you can't so anonymous sources are not fine.

h_tbob• 2 years ago

It’s not humiliating to make mistakes. It’s humiliating to put passengers onto a broken vessel and risk their lives because you are too embarrassed to admit your mistakes.

Good job NASA for picking safety this time!

chrisMyzel• 2 years ago

wouldn't a healthy - "we screwed up - why is that, how can we fix it" - be the right shift in company culture?

If Boeing officially states "we're fine with both options, NASA you decide" (according to NASA press conference) they should not be blaming anyone from that point. I understand that this comes from a tabloid and might not represent the company but clearly there seems to be a statistical relevant amount of screw ups at Boeing and none of that happening at SpaceX, why the hate, why not learn?

shirro• 2 years ago

Another bullshit article from a Murdoch rag? If their Australian publications are any guide I would rate their integrity considerably lower than Boeing's management.

euroderf• 2 years ago

If Boeing (the corporate "person") still ends up making money on this gig, then Boeing (the corporate "person") will get over the humiliation of its cogs, and settle down with a grim new determination to make a buck at any cost.

jqpabc123• 2 years ago

Not too surprising a result after Boeing management undertook efforts to subvert their own successful engineering culture and outsource large chunks of it to try and cut costs.

This is yet another example of a disease inherent to American style corporate culture.

Management and sales are viewed as the income producing elements to be nurtured and rewarded. Engineering and production are the cost elements to be restrained, squeezed and controlled.

In summary, American corporate culture embodies a form of narcissistic personality disorder characterized by management's ever increasing rewards/salaries and declining competence. The results speak for themselves.

big-green-man• 2 years ago

The fact hubris shows through in this article, it's like they don't see the fundamental cause of their troubles.

They hate spacex, instead of I dunno, respecting a competent rival and learning from them. They don't think there will be dead astronauts, well NASA trusted their iudgement before and now they've got a dead airlock and two stranded astronauts. And they're butthurt that NASA won't listen to them?

blames NASA

Why am I not surprised?

The article is probably fake (I don't trust anonymous sources anymore) but honestly it would be my image of what I would guess goes on at Boeing.

Boeing employees 'humiliated' that upstart rival SpaceX will rescue astronauts

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