Quake in 13kb (2021)

by pfych • 2 years ago

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tithe3• 2 years ago

Excellent.

I propose we inscribe the Doom and Quake source onto twin golden platters[0] and send them into outer space with the next interstellar probe.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_Golden_Record

gonzo41• 2 years ago

That's more like sending an interstellar threat to the stars. Beware of earth, it is full of a waring race of people.

tithe3• 2 years ago

Super 3D Noah's Ark, then?

bitwize2• 2 years ago

Aliens will probably be like "Oof, ping times to your galaxy are high... Here's some rollback netcode for intergalactic DM."

Modified3019• 2 years ago

One of my favorite copypasta, for it’s cosmic level of deranged belligerence:

“A LETTER TO ALL ALIENS SPYING ON EARTH'S WIRELESS INTERNET SIGNALS:

DEAR ALIENS, IGNORE EVERYTHING THAT NASA AND THE SPACE NERD SCIENTISTS HAVE TOLD YOU. THIS IS THE ONLY OFFICIAL, LEGITIMATE, HONEST STATEMENT OF ALL THE PEOPLE AND GOVERNMENTS OF PLANET EARTH. ALL OF US COLLECTIVELY, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, THINK THAT:

• EVERY ALIEN IS A SON OF A BITCH

• WE WILL WIN ANY SPACE WAR

• OUR ENTIRE PLANET IS A BOMB

• FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

WE WILL NEVER EVER CHANGE OUR OPINION IGNORE EVERYTHING THEY PUT ON VOYAGER 1”

dmkolobov• 2 years ago

“We like to pretend space is full of hell monsters you see”

tiltowait• 2 years ago

Right ... pretend ...

basementcat3• 2 years ago

You would also need to describe how to build a JavaScript interpreter starting from fundamental physical properties of the hydrogen atom.

tithe3• 2 years ago

Left as an exercise to the reader :)

kernal• 2 years ago

Where it’s going they don’t need JavaScript.

eru3• 2 years ago

Nah, the aliens likely use JavaScript themselves. It's everywhere.

lifthrasiir2• 2 years ago

Well, you can use an approach like CosmicOS [1] to bootstrap a functional computer to the alien hardware and then write a JavaScript interpreter and display in that bootstrapped language. In fact autonomous agents might be needed in general due to the long round-trip time of such interstellar messages.

[1] https://cosmicos.github.io/

gattr• 2 years ago

Wait, but in "Independence Day" they uploaded human-made computer virus into alien computer and it just worked™!

trenchgun• 2 years ago

Just send Lisp.

major5053• 2 years ago

if we send javascript to a alien species, we will make enemies of another civilization.

otikik• 2 years ago

Also how to make an apple pie from scratch.

bheadmaster• 2 years ago

"This civilization appears to be sending threatening messages in form of a simulation that demonstrates their destructive intent. Put their eradication on the TODO list."

izacus• 2 years ago

Of course, you'll also need to inscribe the whole Chrome source code, since this demo outsources a lot of engine stuff to the browser :)

tcsenpai4• 2 years ago

So technically this could fit in 5 QR codes.

I say technically because neither by building or downloading with wget I can get a local html version working, so I guess it would be useful to waste time creating 5 QR codes.

alexjplant• 2 years ago

Nintendo kind of did this back in the day with the e-Reader accessory for the Game Boy Advance. It used dot-based "barcodes" to encode NES games onto cards that you scanned and subsequently played from RAM. I imagine that some deft compression and the ARM Thumb instruction set came especially in handy here.

tcsenpai4• 2 years ago

I once again reinvented the wheel, I see Jokes apart, didn't know that! Extremely cool!

cmdr2• 2 years ago

It runs locally if you download the "m" and "l" files alongside it (for maps and models), and run it on a localhost server (to fix the CORS errors).

curl "https://phoboslab.org/q1k3/index.html" > index.html

curl "https://phoboslab.org/q1k3/l" > l

curl "https://phoboslab.org/q1k3/m" > m

python -m http.server

I then zipped it up, and converted that zip file to 7 QR codes, so technically yes, we can fit Quake on a few QR codes.

tcsenpai4• 2 years ago

So bad is not a full html self runnable, I guess it is doable with some quick trickery. In that case, one could build a QR code html interpreter (aka read > output to file > open the file with firefox ) and it would be so cool

andrehacker• 2 years ago

This is cool.

I found that the first line didn't work but: curl "https://phoboslab.org/q1k3/" > index.html

did the trick...

treve• 2 years ago

Mind bending!

jack_pp• 2 years ago

weird to play without a crosshair, did the original quake not have one?

sjm• 2 years ago

It did but it was not enabled by default IIRC. Also fun fact the "crosshair" in original Quake was limited to only the character "+" from the character set. QuakeWorld later introduced a "crosshair 2" which was a slightly more complicated bitmap that you could change the color of.

huesatbri• 2 years ago

And the “+” was slightly off center as well if I remember correctly.

mozey• 2 years ago

Some people used to have a little putty stuck to the middle their CRTs

sbarre2• 2 years ago

My roommate back in the day did this for some FPS games. He had a little crosshair made of string taped to the middle of his monitor.

jlund-molfese• 2 years ago

For anyone playing in Safari on a Mac—there seems to be something about games which capture the mouse that makes the cursor really slow. But holding down the left mouse button will bring it back to a normal speed.

nilstycho• 2 years ago

Making of: https://phoboslab.org/log/2021/09/q1k3-making-of

mdaniel• 2 years ago

I promise this is not intended as snark: if you already have .php files used for the build, why then do string and memory management in C?

bilekas• 2 years ago

I don't know for sure, but I would hazard a guess that it would take up less space, if memory serves, I don't think PHP has pointers for example and I guess things like that would be more space efficient in c.

chuckadams• 2 years ago

PHP has a pack() function that can write arbitrary bits, and if you like things extra-gnarly, you can manipulate arbitrary structs (and pointers) with FFI. But if there’s already a parser in C, it makes sense to use it.

phoboslab2• 2 years ago

I assume you're talking about the pack_map.c used during build? That just was written in C because I had the .map parser already lying around from another side project. If I had done it from scratch for this project it likely would have been JS or PHP, too.

FinchNova12• 2 years ago

Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28520221

casenmgreen• 2 years ago

I need to be able to invert the Y-axis on the mouse.

It looks amazing, but I can't play as it is.

crawfishphase• 2 years ago

open your mouse and flip the y-axis sensors like a marine

tgv• 2 years ago

Or use it upside down. That has the additional benefit of also inverting the x axis.

phoboslab2• 2 years ago

Please play the post competition version: https://phoboslab.org/q1k3/

This fixes some bugs and also adds the mouse invert option.

system2• 2 years ago

It is mind boggling for 13kb. After a few minutes I didn't even feel the difference. Just perfect.

mdp20212• 2 years ago

It uses generative graphics like a simplification of the technique of Farbrausch (seen in its 64kb intros and usable in its ".werkkzeug" editor).

[the] library supports only 5 different functions: Embossed Rectangle; Embossed Grid; Noise; [draw] Text; Draw previous texture

https://github.com/phoboslab/q1k3/blob/master/source/ttt.js

hajhatten2• 2 years ago

The Farbrausch demo and a talk by Will Wright on the (originally planned) procedurally generated design of Spore lives rent free in my brain every time I see the list of 100's of gigabytes of queued game updates in Steam nowadays.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofA6YWVTURU&t=100s

parag0n• 2 years ago

Great project, and clean code, thanks for this. Also interesting how you encode the soundtrack in js instead of putting it in the assets folder and then proceeding to sample the soundtrack in js yourself!

"let music_data = [6014,21,88,[[[7,0,0,1,255,0,7,0,0,1,255,0,0,100,0,..."

mdp20212• 2 years ago

Well, when computers only had a few handful of kilobytes of RAM, we did not rely on samples...

(Martin Galway being an exception, see Arkanoid on the C64 - but it is Genius and it merged organically with the system, it progressed the technique as opposed to bypassing it.)

JoachimS• 2 years ago

Dang, could we change the title to 13 kB(yte), which is in the title of the the page? It is not 13 kb(it), which in this case a quite significant difference.

jl62• 2 years ago

Brilliant. It contains just enough content to re-activate the neurons where my memories of the original are stored, and my brain is filling in the rest.

sbarre2• 2 years ago

Yep! On the 2nd level, once I had the key, I kinda knew where I had to go?

Even though the level isn't exactly the same as the one in Quake.

Quake in 13kb (2021)

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