Taking Apple to Court: Their mistake wiped out our $33,680 MRR mobile business

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by oidar • 2 years ago

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hiatus• 2 years ago

Some more background: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38394364

exabrial• 2 years ago

Honestly I'm a bit triggered by anyone using MRR as a KPI.

But I do feel sorry for these guys and I hope for a good outcome.

verelo• 2 years ago

I am pretty taken back by this remark. In terms of measuring impact to someone’s life and surviving the startup grind, MRR is probably very relevant at both measuring progress and the financial viability of your efforts.

Can you elaborate on what I’m missing?

SkyPuncher• 2 years ago

It’s basically the only thing that matters at this scale.

LorenDB• 2 years ago

https://mrmr.io/apple seems to be relevant here.

duxup5• 2 years ago

The Softeam situation is confusing to me.

They worked for / with Softeam, left, and then did their own thing and called it Softeam. Then the original Softeam got in trouble and so did they. Did I get that right?

giancarlostoro• 2 years ago

Softeam wasn't the beauty company. Softeam was something else, for something unrelated to photo / video apps. Sounds like maybe their card game matched an existing one in the market, and Apple, as always, did terrible communication over the matter. In Apples war to keep the app store from too much redundancy, they're essentially losing out on income by banning perfectly profitable and okay apps.

LeoPanthera• 2 years ago

3.99 a week charged monthly. For a simple "collage maker". Fake reviews. Immediately asks for a 5-star review when you open the app.

And a simple utility that concatenates videos for $20/month?

Apps like this are why I approve of Apple's app store moderation, even if they do occasionally make mistakes. This was not one of them. These apps were predatory.

Immediately opening a second account when the first one was banned, before they had appealed, is also extremely suspicious behavior.

toxik• 2 years ago

Total sob story. Why is this even on here?

etchalon• 2 years ago

If I reviewed this decision, based on everything presented, I'd probably deny the appeal too.

duxup5• 2 years ago

Agreed, the only indication that they're not the same developers that Apple seems to think they are is that they say so. They even used the same name, clearly at one point were associated with each other.

AnthonyMouse7• 2 years ago

And a simple utility that concatenates videos for $20/month?

Maybe it does more than that? Why would anybody voluntarily pay a subscription for something that isn't worth the money?

Immediately opening a second account when the first one was banned, before they had appealed, is also extremely suspicious behavior.

That is the most human behavior imaginable. Something bad happens to you, it's now an emergency, so you try every avenue to address it simultaneously.

duxup5• 2 years ago

Of course people pay for things that aren't worth the money?

dan-05• 2 years ago

That is the most human behavior imaginable. Something bad happens to you, it's now an emergency, so you try every avenue to address it simultaneously.

I don't know the Apple ecosystem much, but on Android, it's very well known that this is a quick way to get completely banned from the Play Store. I would imagine it's the same.on iOS.

I don't like that this is the way it's handled, but don't disagree with it either or it'd be a fast path to bypassing quality and compliance checks in the app stores.

Even if Apple was to globally allow 3rd party app stores, 3rd party stores would hit this problem at scale eventually.

Taking Apple to Court: Their mistake wiped out our $33,680 MRR mobile business

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