Chinese social media accounts are stoking political chaos ahead of 2024 election

https://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-social-media-accounts-stoking-political-chaos-in-the-us-2024-4

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AniseAbyss• 2 years ago

Everything bad that happens in America is a plot by foreign enemies. It exonerates Americans from introspection I suppose.

officialchicken• 2 years ago

The old "ostrich" / passive approach you advocate also prevents the recognition source of disruption. Indecisiveness and inaction to non-kintetic warfare by nation state actors and sponsors of internal "firebrands" isn't something to take lightly, "I suppose".

mmcdermott• 2 years ago

I put this article squarely in the "no way to know what's real" category. It would be naive in 2024 to assume that foreign powers do not attempt to influence outcomes and particularly that they would not attempt to do so through various online outlets. On the other hand, labeling one's political enemies as foreign disinformation seems like a cheap way to delegitimize the other side.

curt15• 2 years ago

If China blocks western sites, why do western sites allow connections from Chinese IP addresses?

01HNNWZ0MV43FF• 2 years ago

Might be nice for an international audience to hear our takes on any given topic?

Or to head off any "Americans all hate you" type xenophobia that leaders may want

Or to help bring about a global democracy that I want

Just for the good of all mankind?

Georgelemental• 2 years ago

Because we are less despotic than China?

h0l0cube6• 2 years ago

The report described several Chinese government-linked accounts — sometimes referred to as "Spamoflage" — pretending to be avid Republicans and fans of former President Donald Trump's reelection campaign, with some accusing Democratic President Joe Biden of being a "Satanist pedophile."

Huh? Seems absurd that China would want another term of the president that implemented a raft of import tariffs and has been expressly anti-China

pygar• 2 years ago

perhaps the goal is to cause general distrust and chaos rather than back a particular candidate. Biden hasn't pulled back from the trade war either.

Reading a supporter describe Biden as a "Satanist pedophile" would much more likely (I think and hope) go against Trump as being unhinged.

h0l0cube6• 2 years ago

Biden hasn't pulled back from the trade war either.

Biden has been maintaining Trump's policies, but hasn't really continued his escalation, even reopening diplomatic channels and dialogue with China.

jerlam2• 2 years ago

After implementing import tariffs, a country should be using that advantage in order to build up its own manufacturing capabilities. The United States does not seem to be doing that particularly well. Maybe China believes that the US is so dysfunctional and so dependent on Chinese imports that tariffs would not make any difference.

h0l0cube6• 2 years ago

The US and its western allies are actively vying to keep advanced chip fab technology out of China, and restricting GPUs that can be sold to them. At the same time there's heavy domestic investment in new US fabs of a scale not seen for decades.

nsvd• 2 years ago

It seems China isn't worried about this anti-chinese policy. Quite scary.

krapp2• 2 years ago

Trump's tariffs hurt the US more than they did China, and his belligerence and instability made China look stable and reasonable in comparison. Why wouldn't they want more of that?

latency-guy2• 2 years ago

Trump's tariffs hurt the US more than they did China, and his belligerence and instability made China look stable and reasonable in comparison. Why wouldn't they want more of that?

Evidence, and not an opinion piece that only looks at US data but also includes effects on Chinese economy.

You certainly cannot make this claim from the data I've seen available to the public. So I think you're lying. Why lie?

bentt• 2 years ago

Now's the time when the best minds of HN need to get busy making bots that fill social media with RATIONAL DEBATE, moderate views, and links to valid news sources. Fight fire with fire!

consumer451• 2 years ago

GPT-4 is actually excellent at depolarizing the user, when asking normally polarizing questions.

If only there was money to be made on that, it would be a killer app.

krapp2• 2 years ago

Good for them. We need a counterbalance to the political chaos being stoked by white supremacists and the CIA. We live in a post-truth democracy, let the people decide whose lies to believe!

Havoc• 2 years ago

And unfortunately I see nothing to suggest it’ll fail at that objective.

US politics look like an unmitigated shitshow even before the stirring from outsiders

Chinese social media accounts are stoking political chaos ahead of 2024 election

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