Tesla goes after Cybertruck owners selling their electric pickup trucks

https://electrek.co/2024/03/11/tesla-goes-after-cybertruck-owners-selling-electric-pickup-trucks/

by mfiguiere • 2 years ago

26 17 2 years ago

Doug DeMuro covered this recently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iqz-mlYwRo

Tesla doesn't have a legal ground to stand on here and would lose in courts, but it would also cost way more to the person trying to sell his or her own property. The litigation itself would be more than the profit margin unless you do this as a trial/civil lawyer and can litigate it yourself.

Ferrari has banned sales to people and this seems within the rights of a company to do (so long as it's not based on specific discrimination like race or sex).

I personally would never buy an Internet connected vehicle, and I'll never buy a car with access to cell networks. Cars made before this decade are going to become insanely valuable as time goes on.

l2p• 2 years ago

Regarding your last point:

I used to also have this view, I changed my mind after realizing that driving a vehicle is one of the more dangerous things you do regularly. In fact, it is a leading cause of mortality for my demographic. Automobile safety has changed significantly in the last 10-20 years. In many newer automobiles, there are DIY ways to remove the 'phone home' capability if you so desire.

JohnFen3• 2 years ago

Automobile safety has changed significantly in the last 10-20 years.

That's a valid point. Personally, I'd prefer to take the increased chance of being seriously injured or killed in an accident over being under constant surveillance. But this is a thing reasonable people can and do have different perspectives on.

patrick451• 2 years ago

I don't particularly care. I'd rather be at more risk and actually own the vehicle than subject myself to all of this silicon valley nanny-mode nonsense.

jjav• 2 years ago

Automobile safety has changed significantly in the last 10-20 years.

I think we need to define "safety". Leaking all my private information is a major safety threat. Only cars from the last 8-9 years have this risk (with some exception). So depending on what you think safety is, the most recent cars can be the least safe of them all.

In terms of mechanical safety, I wouldn't want to drive a car from the 50s. But a car from, say, 2005, is perfectly safe mechanically while also having zero data flow risks.

dzhiurgis3• 2 years ago

Cars made before this decade are going to become insanely valuable as time goes on.

Why? What value does it add?

ianschmitz• 2 years ago

Software that doesn’t change, heated seats that don’t require a subscription, not selling your location data, able to repair yourself

qarl2• 2 years ago

Consumers should have been limited to one vehicle during the reservation process.

But that would bring down the numbers.

bryanlarsen• 2 years ago

There are going to be fleet buyers with multiple reservations. Flippers would be the vast majority of multiple reservations, but you can't assume that anybody with multiple reservations is a flipper.

qarl2• 2 years ago

HEH. You should read the article. The sentence immediately after the one I quote says:

If you represent a business and you need a fleet, you can talk directly with Tesla’s fleet unit.

dgrin91• 2 years ago

The title is a bit clickbait-y

Tesla isn't suing anyone, and that $50k threat they got in how water for is not in play here at all. They are only cancelling his reservations and refunding him his full deposit amount.

Its a bit of a dick move, but I think Tesla is well within its rights here.

rokkitmensch2• 2 years ago

Nothing prevents him from standing up an LLC and buying via that vehicle...

Tesla goes after Cybertruck owners selling their electric pickup trucks

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