Ex-Trump fixer Michael Cohen says AI created fake cases in court filing

https://www.reuters.com/legal/ex-trump-fixer-michael-cohen-says-ai-created-fake-cases-court-filing-2023-12-29/

by webmaven • 3 years ago

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teo_zero• 3 years ago

I'm not a native English speaker. Is the wording in the title correct? Doesn't the hyphen suggest that Cohen is the fixer of someone who was previously a / known as Trump?

jjgreen• 3 years ago

You're quite right, it should "Ex Trump-fixer" or just "Ex Trump fixer" since the meaning is unambiguous (since an Ex-Trump fixer is silly).

add-sub-mul-div• 3 years ago

It's more or less correct the way the headline has it, but technially an "en dash" is supposed to be used in this situation rather than a hyphen.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dash#Attributive_compounds

meepmorp• 3 years ago

The best people

RcouF1uZ4gsC• 3 years ago

Courts nationally are grappling with the rapid rise of generative artificial intelligence programs like OpenAI's ChatGPT and how to regulate their use in court proceedings.

I don’t think you really need to try to regulate ChatGPT. You just keep the status quo where the lawyer submitting is responsible for everything, and they get sanctioned and maybe lose their license if they submit bs to the court.

Treat it as a tool that the person using is responsible for.

EDIT:

Lawyers are a regulated group, so the numbers involved are tractable. The punishment also has teeth since you need a law license to practice law. We don’t explicitly regulate hammer use, but make the user of the hammer responsible for how they used it and what they did with it.

JumpCrisscross• 3 years ago

don’t think you really need to try to regulate ChatGPT

Courts seek to regulate ChatGPT’s use, not ChatGPT per se. This could be as simple as clarifying that attorneys are responsible for LLMs’ mistakes. It’s probably also helpful to flag the sections generated by an LLM.

searealist3• 3 years ago

A "Fixer", otherwise known as a "Lawyer". I guess everything is an op-ed now.

smt88• 3 years ago

He helped Trump commit crimes and committed crimes for Trump. He wasn't just a lawyer.

speedylight• 3 years ago

Isn’t a fixer just someone who bribes on someone else’s behalf?

Tostino• 3 years ago

Also intimidates people into signing NDAs for things like sexual assault.

cafard• 3 years ago

Not necessarily--a fixer makes problems go away, and it is understood in many cases that this may involve illegalities. But the fixer may simply be expert at negotiating without involving the legal system at all.

bediger4000• 3 years ago

I don't think he did much in the way of lawyer work for Trump, you know, preparing documents, filing motions, etc etc. As I understand it, "fixer" is an accurate characterization, and I applaud thee headliner writer for using it.

searealist3• 3 years ago

He absolutely did all those things.

janalsncm• 3 years ago

A fixer is a person who helps to cover up scandals for another. Defense lawyers do try to clear the names of their clients, but this usually means disputing accusations rather than just hiding evidence of embarrassing things in the case of Cohen.

krapp• 3 years ago

If I had a nickel for every story I read about a lawyer using AI to generate a filing only to have it fabricate cases and cites wholesale, I'd have two nickels.

Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.

And by "weird" I mean terrifying, because you know if it happened twice, it happens all the time, and if it happens with lawyers, it happens with doctors, engineers, and any other profession where people want to cut costs on getting technical documents.

We are well and truly fucked as a species.

jyxent• 3 years ago

If it is happening all the time, providers of generative AI should be emphasizing a whole lot more that they can just make up information.

ChatGPT currently has this message in small text below the message prompt, but I'm not sure how long it has been there: "ChatGPT can make mistakes. Consider checking important information."

But I think that message is kind of underplaying it. The fact that it can make mistakes doesn't necessarily mean that the average person will think it is completely making something up.

gjsman-1000• 3 years ago

Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice

I see you too are a man of culture. :)

Ex-Trump fixer Michael Cohen says AI created fake cases in court filing

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