Framework – We are not sustainable

https://frame.work/ca/en/blog/we-are-not-sustainable

by kelvie • 3 years ago

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sidcool• 3 years ago

The messaging seemed to indicate they are commercially not sustainable.

1MachineElf2• 3 years ago

I had the same initial reaction. Perhaps it was intentionally clickbaity?

nrp• 3 years ago

We didn’t intend for it to be clickbait. We launched a page for our customers and prospective customers to share how we think about environmental impact along with a life cycle analysis of Framework Laptop 13.

10000truths• 3 years ago

@dang, could you change the title to something like "We are not environmentally sustainable" to make it less clickbait-y?

Racing0461• 3 years ago

No, given apple’s focus on sustainability in their September event, I think this plays directly into that.

billybuckwheat• 3 years ago

Funny that when I read the headline, the first thing I thought of was environmentally sustainable. The financial angle didn't occur to me at all ...

december456• 3 years ago

Same. The diversity of HN, i suppose.

kaffeeringe• 3 years ago

"Sustainability" means that something is economically profitable, ecologically viable and socially just.

If you don't make money, it's not sustainable. If you use up ressources, it's not sustainable. If you exploit people, it's not sustainable.

ColoursofOSINT• 3 years ago

I thought this was about them going out of business.

Nearly had a heart attack.

lucb1e• 3 years ago

Guess it says something that I did think of the environment first. (People around me say I care too much, and they may be right)

JohnFen2• 3 years ago

Me too. "Going out of business" didn't even hint at entering my mind.

ChrisArchitect• 3 years ago

Well they're going to get their clicks from that title......

FYI it's about e-waste

RecycledEle• 3 years ago

Sustainable means you can do the same thing, the same way, for a long time.

Environmental issues do not prevent tech from being sustainable. A lack of parts makes tech unsustainable.

If Framework wants to be more sustainable, they need to adopt more standard parts (like COM Express modules) and get other companies to adopt their best modules.

This silliness where they bring out a new motherboard for every generation of CPU is ridiculous. (I'm calling you out, Intel!) There is no reason Intel and AMD can not each bring out a new socket every 3 years and keep it for 9 years so they have low-end (laptop,) mid-range (desktop,) and high-end (server) sockets.

The 120V power receptacle in the US is an example of sustainable technology. It has been with us as long as I've been alive, and it will be with us another 100 years.

I wish people would correctly define "sustainable."

Framework – We are not sustainable

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