Apple Watch knows when I wash my hands Does it also know when I'm jerking off?

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Truthfully... Yes. Many other apps and services do as well. Careful what you give camera and mic permissions to, and always read the privacy agreements, especially for FAANG. If you don't think Amazon, Facebook, Apple, Google, and Microsoft are watching/listening (with and without the light indicators), think again.

CommitSyn• 3 years ago

Now this is the type of FUD I'd expect from my aunt.

mindslight3• 3 years ago

Don't write off what you're hearing from your aunt as "FUD". What she's saying is a poor technical understanding of the very real overarching dynamic.

I've tried many times to explain to people things like that GPS satellites do not track you, and there are things you can do with your own phone which drastically cut down on tracking. There's no interest, no understanding that I'm simultaneously sharing their concerns while trying to tell them that they aren't powerless. They just think surveillance is a foregone conclusion, and then distance themselves and rationalize it any number of ways, and then share their nutty mechanism-of-action condemnations as a way of advertising their political tribe.

SnorkelTan• 3 years ago

I hear this refrain most often from non-technical people. My response is always that it's a waste of resources and unnecessary to listen to your conversations. Advertising companies can infer what you talk about with other people based on proximity to each other and subsequent actions like visiting a website.

If two people stand next to each other and talk about going to Las Vegas, and one person looks at flights to Last Vegas later on, you could probably show ads for flights to Las Vegas the person they were standing next to and have them click on it.

JohnFen• 3 years ago

Which, honestly, isn't any better than actually listening to conversations.

scrum-treats3• 3 years ago

As someone who monitored services that participated in unprompted mic-popping and camera-popping, at-will, for a FAANG company, for multiple years, kindly shut the fuck up.

Additionally, don't be mad when you find out later that companies know about your hyper-personal tendencies.

amznburn2• 3 years ago

Here's a great example of how Amazon Alexa uses "ambient" settings to watch and listen whenever: https://www.reddit.com/r/alexa/comments/12s32gz/does_alexa_l....

From 2 years ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/amazonecho/comments/lsqti3/very_lon...

"Very long time Echo user starting to have a pretty negative (and questionable) experience"

"Over the past couple months, I’ve noticed all of our more recently purchased devices have suddenly started reacting very erratic with voice commands. It’s not one or two devices in particular, but almost all of them. Saying ‘Alexa’ even when standing next to the Show 10 will oftentimes trigger responses to a device across the house as if the spacial detection is off, but it makes no sense as the device reacting couldn’t have possibly heard you. Additionally, we’ve had a lot of false activations and pulling up the history usually presents “Audio was not intended for this device” or “audio could not be understood”, but the recordings have absolutely nothing to do with Alexa, nor is anything remotely close to it present, and sometimes there simply isn’t anything listed for review. In the past the false triggers were uncommon, but when they occurred, they were consistently presented in the app to review and generally made sense. I even had a situation this week where the device in my kitchen kept activating and I was repeatedly yelling “cancel” and the damn thing kept going. I ended up muting the mic for a day as it was so frustrating."

Additional customer reports:

https://www.reddit.com/r/alexa/comments/12oy2ch/alexa_gave_m...

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https://www.reddit.com/r/alexa/comments/11qy6ls/my_alexa_sai...

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amznburn2• 3 years ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/alexa/comments/14puei4/alexa_voice_...

mtmail• 3 years ago

URL is likely https://old.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/s8fmes/apple_wa... (not the https://old.reddit.com/over18/ interstitial page)

Despite 300 mostly funny comments nobody has an answer.

zgluck• 3 years ago

Don't most people wear their watch on the, eh, non-dominant hand? (Which indeed came up there.)

Perhaps Apple could still tell, though, if they really wanted to.

ridiculous_leke• 3 years ago

Sorry about that. This is the URL: https://old.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/14l7z8z/...

wmichelin• 3 years ago

Mods please fix the URL!

dmitrygr• 3 years ago

A long time ago, when I was working on the initial implementation of android wear at Google, I actually worked with the code that does stuff like this, so I might be able to answer somewhat usefully. At least there, the way it worked, is that every 30 seconds, the device would wake up the accelerometer and collect 2 seconds of data at 120(?)Hz. After that, there was a relatively large decision tree based on the values, their derivatives, etc. This decision tree was an output of a large trained model, but was itself pretty small: a few thousand values. It could only classify things it was trained on - the output was an activity index. At Google at the time, the supported activities were: walking, biking, running, driving, sitting, unknown. The model cannot output anything other than the activity index.

The practical upshot: Could one detect such activities based on accelerometer data? Surely yes. However, unless somebody trained it on masturbation, it is unlikely that that is an actual possible output of it.

Details: model format was more or less this

    node {
      int activity; //positive if this is the terminal
         //node and this is the answer, else this is
         //not terminal. Then it is the index of the
         //input sample to read (times minus one) to
         //compare to the next value
       float compareWith;
       unsigned gotoNodeIdxIfLessThan;
       unsigned gotoNodeIdxIfGreaterOrEq;
     }

     model {
       node nodes[];
     }

You’d start at node [0] and walk the tree as per comparison instructions (index of input samples and float to compare to) till you reached a terminal node.

bombcar• 3 years ago

There’s probably code to NOT make the hand washing alert come on during such struggle sessions.

Apple Watch knows when I wash my hands Does it also know when I'm jerking off?

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