“I would like to apologize to Halli”

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1633253950198624257

by minimaxir • 3 years ago

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minimaxir• 3 years ago

See comments here for context: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35057257

This is likely the first time Elon has publically apologized for anything.

super256• 3 years ago

Hs is apologizing for Twitter's performance all the time.

Buldak• 3 years ago

Insofar as one can "apologize" on behalf of someone else, anyway. Elon is deprecating about Twitter's performance because he attributes it to the prior regime.

jsheard• 3 years ago

"His severance package is HOW MUCH? Fine, I'll walk it back just this once..."

starkparker• 3 years ago

https://www.platformer.news/p/in-latest-round-of-twitter-cut...

Among the more notable layoffs in this round were founders of companies that Twitter had acquired under its previous owners. Haraldur Thorleifsson, Martijn de Kuijper, Leah Culver, and Esther Crawford had previously been on a “do not fire” list, because it was going to be so expensive to pay them out: as part of their compensation packages, the founders had accelerated stock vesting. All four were cut over the weekend.

Culver: https://twitter.com/leahculver/status/1631435761236189185

de Kuijper: https://twitter.com/mdekuijper/status/1633011171551764480

Crawford, perhaps: https://twitter.com/esthercrawford/status/163316087354308608...

olliej2• 3 years ago

My guess is that his own lawyers probably told him that he needed to immediately start trying to undo the damage.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he could personally be sued and personally held liable, and it would be super great if an actual lawyer could comment on that :)

EricHolden12• 3 years ago

Elon Musk is a loser.

dang3• 3 years ago

Ok, but please don't post unsubstantive comments to Hacker News.

You may not owe losers better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

cmh892• 3 years ago

I believe Elon Musk issued this non-apology in an attempt to avoid a lawsuit after openly admitting to firing someone due to their disability.

This is in line with his character based on the way he has treated other people.

dang3• 3 years ago

Edit: the parent comment has been edited in a misleading way. It originally read:

'I would like to not lose another lawsuit' Musk is such a trash person

I would not have replied if the current text had been your original comment.

Editing your comment in a way that deprives replies of context (and indeed makes them seem totally inappropriate) is not cool, so please don't.

--- original reply ---

Ok, but please don't post unsubstantive comments to Hacker News.

You may not owe persons who you feel are trash better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

cmh892• 3 years ago

I felt my original comment was substantative. I received feedback from you that you disagreed. I changed it to elaborate on my original comment and make it more substantive, based on your feedback.

This feels like a no-win situation for me. It also feels pretty arbitrary. Comments like this

"Surrogate father for 20yo hustle bros."

In this post https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35057257#35059060

isn't hidden nor modded down, but it's far lower effort and not hidden. I've seen anti-Semitic posts not get hidden. Your comment felt really out of left field.

You told me my comment wasn't up to standard, so I changed it, which I guess I wasn't supposed to do. Sorry

dilyevsky• 3 years ago

Better to talk to people than communicate via tweet.

Well it was expensive lesson but he finally gets it

powerbroker• 3 years ago

I have no doubt it's a lesson he won't be applying broadly. There are lots of very sloppy communications in Tesla, particularly. Frankly, I'm betting the reason that the manual was turned into HTML was so that no one would be inclined to read about the cars' instructions in one go -- and find out how many mistakes there are in it. This isn't just an English as a second language problem -- its a problem that permeates the entirety of Tesla.

metadat• 3 years ago

I would like to apologize to Halli for my misunderstanding of his situation. It was based on things I was told that were untrue or, in some cases, true, but not meaningful.

It's a half apology; Musk is shifting blame to someone else who told him "untrue things". He's not taking much personal responsibility for his failure to 1) act in good faith starting with assuming positive intent and 2) verify information himself before flying off the rails and going ape shit on someone with several orders of magnitude less power than himself.

It's about average for an apology from a ego-maniacal narcissist.

What a fragile ego with this one. I make varying degrees of mistakes everyday, it's an inherent part of the human experience. I appreciate the opportunities I receive to get feedback and take accountability so I can let people know that I truly do care about them, and also improve myself over time so I'm at least not making the same mistakes in an endless shitshow loop.

It doesn't have to be a big deal, though to be fair, I do have other sensitivities that are more challenging for me personally to address and make progress on.

Edit: @toomuchtodo, my HN good buddy, why'd you delete your reply? You nailed it.

toomuchtodo replied to your comment [link]:
That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.

Edit 2: But I like giving you the credit! Cheers

toomuchtodo• 3 years ago

Fits better as part of your own comment, rounds out the thesis and observations.

Edit: Thanks :)

olliej2• 3 years ago

I can only assume that this is some kind of lawyer insisted response. It isn’t even a real apology, instead offloading responsibility on some nebulous other source.

Here’s the thing though, who cares who told you that someone was faking it: at what point is acceptable to publicize medical information you required an employee to provide? And that is required to be confidential?

What kind of amoral shithead do you have to be to think that kind of behavior is ever ok?

Pxtl• 3 years ago

I think this is a record for how fast I've seen an HN post flagged.

patrickdavey• 3 years ago

I'm genuinely curious: why would this be flagged?

sidcool• 3 years ago

It is possible to be successful without being a jerk.

nunez• 3 years ago

What a clown.

“I would like to apologize to Halli”

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