Under voter pressure, members of Congress backpedal (hard) on SOPA

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/under-voter-pressure-members-of-congress-backpedal-on-sopa.ars

by chaosmachine • 15 years ago

152 35 15 years ago

vm• 15 years ago

We're not done yet. Continue to speak loudly as a voter (http://www.sopatrack.com/) and consumer (http://gizmodo.com/5870241) and let's kill this bill once and for all.

kenrik• 15 years ago

You need to watch both hands and don't let your guard down.

They will pass this bill with some very bad things in it once they think no one is watching, just wait.

forensic2• 15 years ago

What we really need is a constitutional amendment that forbids government interference with internet infrastructure. The internet needs to be protected by laws that recognize it as an essential public utility.

A free and open internet is essential to the safeguarding of freedom of communication and to the economic health of the world.

Basic internet access must be recognized as a human right.

jacoblyles• 15 years ago

We should get together a small group of people who know what they are doing to think about what such an amendment should say.

gldalmaso• 15 years ago

Thankfully, here in Brazil things seems to be moving towards that:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111004/04402516196/brazil...

logn• 15 years ago

This is really good news. It actually sort of reaffirms there's at least something theoretically correct about our government.

While we complain a lot about money in politics, and it is a problem, ultimately we do have control over them if we pay enough attention.

iamdave• 15 years ago

Awesome, can we get the same done for NDAA?

toyg• 15 years ago

NDAA is already law, iirc. You need a brand new bill to abolish it.

felipemnoa• 15 years ago

Or challenge it in court.

spodek• 15 years ago

Or civil disobedience, which has a long history of success for prompting legislation and judicial review in the United States, not to mention elsewhere.

rd108• 15 years ago

don't celebrate prematurely

ImLou• 15 years ago

It seems to be a general trend across countries to get more and more restrictive on internet access and downloads.

There seems to be a good opportunity to do some good work here - I'm thinking of things like having a network between personal home routers to effectively bypass the control of ISPs etc, or encrypted distributed file sharing networks.

Pain is good thing, it means there is an opportunity to solve it, and the various petitions against this bill are a good start.

buff-a• 15 years ago

A request to postpone a vote is not necessarily an admission that they no longer believe it the bill to be a good idea. It could be a request to move the vote till after people have forgotten about it.

balloot• 15 years ago

What infuriates me is that both of the California Senators are co-sponsoring this piece of garbage. One of them is Dianne Feinstein, who is up for re-election this year. I'm a solid Democratic voter, but there is no way someone who sponsors SOPA or PIPA will get my vote.

Even better than phone calls would be the emergence of a non-SOPA supporting Democrat running against Senator Feinstein. I'm sure the prospect of losing Northern California to a challenger would get her attention.

lepacheco• 15 years ago

Hollywood must be paying handsomely

nathos• 15 years ago

They are: http://www.defendtheinter.net/

(scroll down to see a list of Congress members ranked by media industry donations)

guelo• 15 years ago

It's too late for a Democratic primary challenger to enter the race and even in the general election the Republicans only have some fringe candidates. She's basically running unopposed.

vaksel• 15 years ago

we need a 3rd party, or better yet change voting to preferential voting, so you can vote for who you want and not against who you don't.

that way you can say I like this guy, but in case he doesn't win, I'll settle for this one

LeafStorm• 15 years ago

Instant-runoff voting. It's already used by many state and local governments, so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to implement nationally.

foz• 15 years ago

Why is there not a referendum process in national US politics? It seems the only way to prevent government officials from passing this kind of legislation is through public outcry on the internet (and mass media, if they listen). People should be allowed to reject this kind of thing through a real process. Special interest has a bigger voice than the people most of the time. Referendums work in Switzerland (usually, let's not talk about minarets).

rst• 15 years ago

Referendum processes are no panacea --- look at the mess they've created in California. Among other problems, there are referenda that limit tax increases, which have obvious appeal, and referenda mandating spending on various good causes, which also have obvious appeal. The problem is that at this point, so much state revenue is committed to mandates that in crunch times, everything else gets slashed to the bone, whether it makes sense to do that or not.

See http://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/who-kille... for more, particularly the parts on propositions 13 (limiting tax increases) and 98 and 111 (mandating spending)...

rdouble• 15 years ago

Such referendums wouldn't necessarily work in the way you think they would. All the American stuff that probably seems crazy to a Swiss person (like stiff prison sentences for minor crimes) is actually desired by a large percentage of the population. It could be much worse than the minaret ban, especially on issues that can be colored by religious beliefs.

ck2• 15 years ago

This is not a win and it's not backpedaling.

They don't want to vote on it and have it fail entirely.

They just want to rewrite it a little or slip it past later.

It's not if but when a version of this will pass that will be abused exactly like DMCA on youtube.

funkah• 15 years ago

I'm sure they will just keep pushing back the vote until people on the Internet are tired of hearing about it, or have forgotten. I expect it to work.

nhangen• 15 years ago

That's exactly what they are going to do. They know that the outcry won't duplicate itself over numerous iterations, and they'll slip it by when people turn away for a moment.

pmorici• 15 years ago

"It appears that lawmakers are beginning to realize how much damage their anti-'piracy' bills could cause to the Internet and to Internet-related businesses,"

Actually, it appears lawmakers are beginning to realize supporting it will put them in jeopardy of being voted out of office.

shaggy• 15 years ago

This is democracy in action. If the bills don't get passed now, we must remain vigilant to them being buried in later legislation.

Under voter pressure, members of Congress backpedal (hard) on SOPA

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