Tool that lists all Fediverse instances including Mastodon, Pleroma, Rebased

http://demo.fedilist.com/

by cf100clunk • 4 years ago

115 47 4 years ago

demo.fedilist.com

joe-collins• 4 years ago

Well, looking at a few of the top instances, we once again have proof that the Internet is, in fact, for porn.

2Gkashmiri3• 4 years ago

This tool should have a born filter then

coretx2• 4 years ago

The "Fediverse" should focus on _CON-federation_ making the /private/ individual autonomous. Otherwise people will simply be swapping a couple of emperors for many kings. To realise this and solve most problems, hosting instances must be made as easy, cheap and convenient as possible.

EarlKing2• 4 years ago

s/the Internet/the Fediverse

Pretty sure I said as much in another thread and got excoriated for it because #NotAllFediverseNodes. Well, here's your proof: the Fediverse is largely populated with all manner of sexual content that is intolerable pretty much everywhere else, hence why nobody wants to use it.

ticviking• 4 years ago

This is exactly why I won’t even bother with it.

themodelplumber2• 4 years ago

It's a passionate place we have here at HN in a lot of ways too.

I like that the Internet is for passion, even if it's essentially kitted out most people with a straight up zippo lighter when it comes to satisfying the human need for that burning kind of sensory heat.

CodeArtisan• 4 years ago

The most active instance, Pawoo, was started by Pixiv after Twitter banned lolicon. Pawoo is blocked/silenced by many instances in the west. Pawoo is no more the property of Pixiv since 2020.

https://ethanzuckerman.com/2017/08/18/mastodon-is-big-in-jap...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixiv

chatterhead• 4 years ago

Confediverse.

ck2• 4 years ago

It's getting a hug of death.

sample archive as TLS proxy and cache

https://web.archive.org/web/20221029060653/http://demo.fedil...

themodelplumber2• 4 years ago

I feel like my thumb enjoyed tapping the link with the word "BIG", so maybe a bit of a disconnect between the average caveman thumbs / mousing fingers-brain and the further implication of the word in terms of resource use.

1337p3376• 4 years ago

Believe it or not, the resource use is mostly bandwidth for that page. Something like 2MB of HTML; the actual data is mostly cached.

1337p3376• 4 years ago

Ha, indeed. It seems to be up for me, but that's why I put it on the demo subdomain and left off HTTPS: it's a demo, not quite ready for production.

(It's also getting flooded with vulnerability scanners at the moment, but that's not affecting the load, just the pipe.)

xch• 4 years ago

And be pigeonholed

bruce511• 4 years ago

I get the sudden urge for Mastodon, and the anti-twitter sentiment at the moment, but IMO changing platform is irrelevant.

Firstly, let's assume that we are upset with twitter firings enough to quit twitter. Moderators, accessibility teams, etc - we consider them important enough that we leave when they go, and go to mastadon? Which has how many content moderators?

I'm no fan of elons style, but he's not wrong that a company losing 4m a day is sustainable. And saddled with 13b of new debt to pay off the old owners won't help.

Advertising won't save twitter. That's been tried and failed.

While there are edge cases where twitter is valuable, the vast majority is just noise, and not in a good way. The one-line sound bite has been co-opted by politicians and celebrities, to to little more than gain attention. It panders to the over-simplification, it eschews serious discussion of nuanced viewpoints. It is driven by those seeking attention, when absolutely any attention will do.

It is the bottom that internet communities raced to. Overall I think a world without twitter is better than a world with twitter, regardless of which platform it ends up on.

1337p3376• 4 years ago

This applies if you're thinking of Twitter as a business or as a tool for mass-broadcast. If you think of something with a similar format but that fits a different space, that's the use for the Fediverse: it's more like USENET or BBSs or even 2008 Twitter than it is like 2022 Twitter.

paulgb2• 4 years ago

Re. moderation, I think you’re right to be skeptical of all-volunteer moderation, but I see it as a return to the phpBB days. My big worry is that once spammers/trolls start their own instances existing instances will have to lock down federation to other known instances, similar to what’s happened with email.

I’d argue that the things you don’t like about twitter have more to do with its business model than tweet-form content in general.

onion2k2• 4 years ago

Which has how many content moderators?

None of them, but that's fine. People moving to Mastodon believe that communities can largely self-moderate, by aligning with the owners and kicking out people who don't play by their rules. Twitter is arguably the same, but it tries to be all things to all people and fails. Mastodon instance owners aren't trying to be that. They only want to keep a small number of people happy. That's a much easier job.

I think it works quite well. Mastodon instances aren't ever going to be a platform to broadcast a message to the public to like Twitter tries to be, but that's OK. There's a place in the world for lots of things that aren't Twitter.

It is the bottom that internet communities raced to.

People choosing to leave Twitter aren't convinced that's true. They believe it will get worse.

zimpenfish4• 4 years ago

None of them, but that's fine.

Not entirely true, my server has a content moderator - it's me, moderating my own content, which is the only content that can be posted on there.

communities can largely self-moderate, by aligning with the owners and kicking out people who don't play by their rules

What is "kicking out people who don't play by their rules" if not "content moderation"??

justinludwig• 4 years ago

Big picture, Mastodon isn't just Twitter minus the moderation -- it's Twitter minus the algorithm for promoting the most "engaging" content. That's a big win, because it's the competition for the most engaging content that always ends up as a race to the bottom.

The dumbest, silliest, and rudest comments and commenters get promoted on Twitter (and Facebook etc), because that gets the most clicks. Get rid of all that manufactured promotion, and what's left is a quieter space where users can self-organize their own communities -- more like a chill party or friendly conference hallway than a staged political rally.

seydor3• 4 years ago

people retweet stuff in an equally dumb manner . thats how twitter started

hezralig2• 4 years ago

Is Twitter losing $4m per day his fault? As in the acquisition was a LEVERAGED BUY-OUT and he scared off advertisers at a advertising summit that would have locked-in adrev for the year of 2023.

When you borrow money at an obscene interest rate during a leveraged-buyout, the fastest way to pay your creditors is to cut headcount if history serves correctly.

I have seen no numbers indicating they were losing anywhere near that per day looking at their published financials.

zimpenfish4• 4 years ago

I have seen no numbers indicating they were losing anywhere near that per day looking at their published financials.

They seem to have lost $221M in 2021[1] which would be ~600k/day but that seems to have been influenced by an $800M lawsuit loss - that would imply they had (theoretical) profits of ~$580M for 2021.

[1] https://news.yahoo.com/twitter-posts-loss-2021-stock-1301280...

elforce002• 4 years ago

Interesting. Just to be on the same page, which social media you think needs to survive? Ig? Fb? TikTok? The reality is that social media is part of everyone's life wether we like it or not. Twitter may die but something else will take its place. Same goes for fb, ig, etc...

Regarding twitter itself, I also think twitter has an uphill battle (to say the least) to be profitable and maintain relevance in this climate. I think Elon will try different routes (some combination of twitch, YouTube for creators) just before call it quits but let's not forget that twitter is still the "Extra! Extra! Read all about it!" Platform. There's no other one to even come to mind when you want to know which news is happening atm.

Heck, he could enter in some sort of agreement with news outlets and add realtime video capabilities attached to trending tweets, etc...

Timja3• 4 years ago

I wish this had a "monthly users" column.

It still has joindiaspora.com at #4 which is not even active anymore.

1337p3376• 4 years ago

That'd be cool, but it just uses publicly available APIs for this. Most of the data like that isn't reported through the public APIs across various types of software. Bad data is tossed out (e.g., the you-think-your-fake-numbers-are-impressive.well-this-instance-contains-all-living-humans.lubar.me lists over 7 billion accounts) but data that is (as far as I know) accurate is presented as-is.

Timja3• 4 years ago

Monthly active users seems to be reported:

https://mastodon.social/nodeinfo/2.0

yborg• 4 years ago

https://fediverse.observer/list

seydor3• 4 years ago

the backlash to twitter (to the extent that it exists) is mostly ideological. Mastodon is not ideological in general. individual instances are, but they can't scale to the size that the ideologues want them to. So i m afraid they are going to have to wait for the next centralized forum to be deployed.

paulgb2• 4 years ago

There are elements of ideology, but I think a lot of us just see the writing on the wall in that twitter now needs to squeeze more profit out of its userbase (to pay the interest on the debt from the LBO) and is likely to change in big ways.

To the extent that it’s ideological, the ideology is that many small instances are better than one big one so that a billionaire can’t destroy it in a flash.

seydor3• 4 years ago

maybe the people who tweet will care about it, but most people dont tweet, they read. Unfortunately mastodon servers tend to block each other on ideological grounds, which defeats the purpose of having a single identity.

mcv• 4 years ago

Is this list complete? It seems to list only a single Friendica instance. Or I don't understand how this list works.

zimpenfish4• 4 years ago

Definitely not 100% complete because it doesn't list any of my servers (which should be findable through federation, I think?)

Tool that lists all Fediverse instances including Mastodon, Pleroma, Rebased

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