The Search for a Pill That Can Help Dogs–and Humans–Live Longer

https://www.wired.com/story/the-search-for-a-pill-for-dog-and-human-longevity/

by Brajeshwar • 4 years ago

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It's too bad that this very interesting research being led by an obviously talented person has to be overshadowed by the sexual misconduct of the men around her.

I hope her and others like her can help fix the world before my daughter grows into it, but I worry patterns that are millennia old may take longer than a few generations to fix.

programmarchy• 4 years ago

From the Aubrey de Grey Wikipedia entry [1]

Both women describe situations in which de Grey, {...} explicitly spoke with them about sex. According to Halioua’s account, he even told her that it was her responsibility to sleep with SENS donors to encourage financial contributions. Deming was only 17 when, she alleges, de Grey told her he wanted to speak with her about his “adventurous love life.”

What might be even worse is the response by SENS:

In March 2022, the SENS Research Foundation released a statement regarding de Grey's employment affirming that while his actions "did substantiate instances of poor judgment and boundary-crossing behaviors, Dr. de Grey is not a sexual predator."

I’m also the father of a daughter and this makes my blood boil.

Relating this back to the topic of life extension technology, one effect is that evil people will live longer. I’d wager that life extension technology would create an evolutionary advantage for evil people because they are more prone to power-seeking ideologies and therefore more likely to adopt the technology than conventionally morally good people, who would be more at peace with death.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_de_Grey

micromacrofoot• 4 years ago

You don’t need to have a daughter to be angry about this! Suggesting prostitution is outrageously uncalled for. That guy is an asshole.

I won’t comment on what defines someone as evil, but rich people do already live longer - so this would further exaggerate a gap that already exists. That’s a very safe bet.

Toxide• 4 years ago

What no cats?

jlgosse• 4 years ago

Read the article and maybe you'll find out

mjrpes• 4 years ago

"Halioua says she has nothing against cats—and has even hired a few cat fanciers—but that their long lives, dislike of medicine, and not-very-humanlike physiology make them a less appealing target. 'They’re like little biological aliens,' Halioua says."

dr_dshiv2• 4 years ago

Why haven’t we invented forever-puppies yet?

downrightmike4• 4 years ago

Non-ending life is terrifying. Imagine getting injured and that's how you'll be forever, now imagine not understanding that and being in pain forever.

ALittleLight• 4 years ago

Generally people aren't looking for immortality in the "evil magic curse" sense. They want immortality in the sense of being able to preserve your body and your mind in your prime indefinitely. A magic curse where you suffer forever is bad, but being healthy is good.

me_smith• 4 years ago

Reminds me of Elantris by Brandon Sanderson.

bergenty• 4 years ago

Completely disagree. Would rather be limbless and alive than dead. Constant pain? Constantly take opiates.

raydiatian• 4 years ago

Non-ending life (as you describe it) is terrifying.

But non-ending life (in other more positive conceptions) is the literal basis of religions.

angelbar• 4 years ago

There is always the fire option... or nuclear

etiam• 4 years ago

Similar reasons we're still waiting for weeks with only Sundays in them?

tsol• 4 years ago

It's not possible. Also that would be really sad for the puppy that has to outlive everyone it ever meets.

dr_dshiv2• 4 years ago

Why do you think it isn’t possible? Let’s say they stayed puppies for 5 years. That’s at least as long as humans stay kids.

Life span and childhood won’t be simply controlled, but why in principle couldn’t a puppy stay a puppy for a few years?

Failure of ambition if you ask me, jeez

hkxer• 4 years ago

I don’t understand modern healthcares obsession with extending life.

Part of the allure of life is because it’s temporary, so each moment is more valuable.

In a life where everyone lives to 200, the value of each moment (of your family, of the choices you make) is less, because you’ll probably have another chance sometime in the future.

Personally, I don’t want to live a day past 80.

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