Osm.el – OpenStreetMap Viewer for Emacs

https://github.com/minad/osm

by okasaki • 4 years ago

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melling• 4 years ago

Always fun to see cool things written for the big Lisp interpreter that poses as an editor.

When do those big performance improvements for Emacs Lisp ship?

Tomte2• 4 years ago

nativecomp has already shipped. Is there anything more in the pipeline?

AlbertVAustin• 4 years ago

Shipped as in "merged to master" but Emacs 28 that will feature this has not been released yet, or am I wrong?

deng2• 4 years ago

I just tried it and wow, this works surprisingly great. Pretty snappy, zooming and searching works fine (well, it's using openstreetmap.org for searching, so the results are pretty bad, but that's not the fault of this package).

tuukkah• 4 years ago

In the future, doing queries and edits within Emacs would be awesome!

Overpass Turbo for queries: https://overpass-turbo.eu/

Level0 for text-based edits: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Level0

lolcat_cowsay• 4 years ago

Bloat

seanw4442• 4 years ago

Bloat is bundling it into the default Emacs distribution. This is cool.

nanna• 4 years ago

As someone who presents lectures using org-tree-slides [0] instead of Powerpoint, I can totally imagine this being useful for me.

I'm flabbergasted at how snappy and intuitive it is!

[0] https://github.com/takaxp/org-tree-slide

akagusu• 4 years ago

Thanks for the link, very useful.

taeric• 4 years ago

I was also blown away by how much more responsive it is than the browser maps.

Hitton• 4 years ago

I'm once again reminded of: "Emacs is a great operating system, only lacking a decent editor."

nathell• 4 years ago

That’s the adage oft repeated by people who had had a cursory look at Emacs, but haven’t been really using it. In reality, the opposite is true. Emacs is a great editor, but the operating system that it is [0] is lacking in many ways:

- performance is not great (although it’s getting better with the advent of native compilation in Emacs 28)

- the system language is awkward (no namespaces, dynamic scoping by default, ...)

- no preemptive multithreading

- etc.

On the plus side, it is auto-documenting and extremely malleable.

[0]: Yeah, it can be a full-fledged OS. Just add a Linux kernel: http://informatimago.free.fr/i/linux/emacs-on-user-mode-linu...

bananamerica2• 4 years ago

I'm pretty sure when the adage was created it was much closer to the truth. Now it's mostly a joke.

zeveb• 4 years ago

the system language is awkward (no namespaces, dynamic scoping by default, ...)

RMS's dislike of Common Lisp really caused a colossal amount of damage. Imagine an Emacs written in Common Lisp instead of Emacs Lisp, with decades and decades of improvements. Having written a reasonable amount of software in both, Common Lisp Emacs would be very, very preferable, in part for the reasons you list and in part for others (e.g. a full-fledged, built in object system and improved extensibility).

donio• 4 years ago

dynamic scoping by default

This is not much of a problem in practice these days. As you probably know it's trivial to enable lexical-binding for an entire source file and many (most?) modern packages do just that. It's even on by default in the scratch buffer. Emacs is just more user friendly than most other systems when when it comes to backwards compatibility.

kqr2• 4 years ago

It does have a decent editor, though: Evil mode.

RobertMiller2• 4 years ago

Better than decent. I switched from neovim to evil mode a few years ago and never looked back.

distantsounds• 4 years ago

Doesn't everyone need geo-locate and map coordinates while simultaneously editing a config file? You're on hackernews, people will come out of the woodwork to defend this stuff.

jfb• 4 years ago

Emacs is a reflection or a rhyme of a great operating system; it has the critical feature of total inspectability/hackability, but the implementation is poor. There is no other system in use today that has that kind of total transparency all the way to the bottom, or at least, as far down as Emacs does.

I don't think people should try to use Emacs to build an OS on top of, but building an OS without understanding why Emacs survived is going to just end us up in the same world of inflexible, brittle, clunky software we're in now.

tmalsburg2• 4 years ago

False. Emacs has a wonderful vi(m) implementation in the form of evil-mode.

hereforphone• 4 years ago

RIP "Do one thing and do it well".

"The Unix philosophy is documented by Doug McIlroy in the Bell System Technical Journal from 1978: Make each program do one thing well"

omaranto2• 4 years ago

But that's for individual programs in a larger system. Those of us who live in Emacs do follow the Unix philosophy at the granularity of individual applications inside Emacs or even individual Elisp functions.

Zambyte• 4 years ago

This is like saying RIP "do one thing and do it well" because Osm.js has been written for Node.js. Osm.el is a program that does one thing well (view OpenStreetMap) for the Emacs runtime.

mark_l_watson• 4 years ago

That looks so cool (but I didn’t install it). I regret after 30 years using Emacs that I have mostly moved in to VSCode. I toy with going back to Emacs but I have become addicted to tools like GitHub Copilot that saves me so much time that I can’t imagine not having it always running. Eventually Copilot support will come to Emacs.

Someone else here said that Osm.el is very performant. At its best, Emacs is like a Smalltalk environment where you can happily do all of your work in one environment.

Anyway, I have bookmarked Osm.el and if Copilot becomes available for Emacs I really look forward to spending a day installing both at once.

nicbou• 4 years ago

This is the beauty of open data and open source in general. No one is forcing you to use the tools as intended. Want a map of all free bathrooms near a café as a markdown file? Knock yourself out! People will even help you do it.

Meanwhile Google Maps has one increasingly user-hostile frontend per platform. It won’t let me see how long a route with waypoints is, and it just started showing me a news feed every time I use it.

OpenStreetMap is as precious as Wikipedia, and very few people seem to realise it.

sobkas• 4 years ago

Yep. I also had a phase of "use Emacs for everything, literally" but I have it behind me. I now I use it as the editor. I use it to edit EvEryThIng.

whartung• 4 years ago

Very nice. I looked before for some kind of graphics support in Emacs, but didn't find anything. I didn't know that Emacs could render and (I assume) interact with SVG. Apparently it's been in there for some time.

Great, another distraction to tap my time.

m4lvin• 4 years ago

This works great, in particular on the Purism Librem 5 :-)

Osm.el – OpenStreetMap Viewer for Emacs

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