Health ministry warns of vaccine's side effects (Japan)

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20211204_12/

by Ambolia • 5 years ago

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Akaahn• 5 years ago

Well, at least there is one country willing to take this seriously.

tbihl2• 5 years ago

Whether by 'this' you mean vaccine side effects or free scientific inquiry barely matters. It is refreshing to see.

Ambolia4• 5 years ago

I don't understand how we don't have a clearly set control group in every single country where there are vaccination programs. Instead of that it's all anecdotes about Romania cases going up because of low vaccination rates (until the cases started to go down, then it disappeared from the news).

detaro3• 5 years ago

plenty countries have given out warnings and adapted vaccination protocols because of this already, so I'm not sure what you are talking about?

RedBeetDeadpool2• 5 years ago

He's talking about the mass deception by crony-capitalists with hands on the controls of the us government. Acknowledgment of only one opinion of truth has been rather blatant here in the states.

ekianjo5• 5 years ago

Oh, you havent heard of the OSHA yet?

https://www.osha.gov/coronavirus/faqs#reporting

Are adverse reactions to the COVID-19 vaccine recordable on the OSHA recordkeeping log?
DOL and OSHA, as well as other federal agencies, are working diligently to encourage COVID-19 vaccinations. OSHA does not wish to have any appearance of discouraging workers from receiving COVID-19 vaccination, and also does not wish to disincentivize employers' vaccination efforts. As a result, OSHA will not enforce 29 CFR 1904's recording requirements to require any employers to record worker side effects from COVID-19 vaccination at least through May 2022. We will reevaluate the agency’s position at that time to determine the best course of action moving forward.

You are in good hands.

endemic• 5 years ago

Haven’t we known about these side effects for a while? I don’t think it’s been a secret.

ekianjo5• 5 years ago

Yet when you mention that the vaccine has side effects you get banned from various social media venues, and they stick a "WHO COVID19 info" propaganda announcement below for good measure.

IkmoIkmo2• 5 years ago

As far as I know, virtually every serious medical forum, whether it's pharmaceutical companies, health ministries, WHO, groups of hospitals, universities etc are constantly researching, monitoring and reporting on side-effects and taking this very seriously. What makes you say they aren't?

Japan's health ministry just reported a 15 per million, or 0.0015% risk of inflammation when taking Pfizer. This doesn't change their policy position, which is to recommend and urge as many people as possible to get the vaccine, as the risks of contracting covid and its effects far outweigh this 0.0015% sideeffect risk.

ekianjo5• 5 years ago

side-effects and taking this very seriously. What makes you say they aren't?

because they are advocating for injecting 5 years old who have literally a negative benefit-risk ratio from the vaccine. You don't smell corruption much yet?

raxxorrax• 5 years ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29441794

It is just stress...

onion2k3• 5 years ago

There's a few things that are a bit weird about this article.

- It uses "males" instead of "men" in the image caption. That's very "Reddit-y" and not how journalists write.

- It doesn't mention the name of the Japanese Health Minister at all.

- The only other link on the web about it is a YouTube video of a woman reading out the article verbatim (https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20211204_12/).

- If you search for Moderna with any of the cited numbers Google returns nothing.

I'm reluctant to call bullshit on it, but you'd think an announcement from the health minister of G8 country would make more headlines.

Ambolia4• 5 years ago

From Yahoo Japan: https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/c737f540fd3ae5a6b170ceb807...

The original seems to come from the Kyodo agency, but they don't have published it in english as far as I've seen.

There's a video making rounds too but it looks a bit suspicious.

gizmo6863• 5 years ago

There is nothing new about the vaccine in this report. Only a change in the labeling in Japan. Frankly, even for the Japanese this is not that interesting of a development, let alone internationally.

Here is a US CDC page on the subject https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/my...

I just got a booster over the weekend, and I can't tell you if this was listed in the consent form I skipped through.

It uses "males" instead of "men" in the image caption. That's very "Reddit-y" and not how journalists write.

Using male/female instead of men/women is standard in medical writing.

0xbs• 5 years ago

Germany's Paul Ehrlich Institut (Germn federal agency, medical regulatory body and research institution for vaccines and biomedicines) periodically publishes vaccine security reports [1]. In the latest security report for Jan-Sep 2021 [2] (German only), it states in chapter 7.1.2 table 5 the rate of Myo-/Perikarditis per 100,000 vaccine doses of Pfizer (Corminaty) and Moderna (Spikevax) in different age groups:

11.41/100000 for age group 12-17 (based on 2 reports, hence unconfident)

11.71/100000 for age group 18-29

[1] https://www.pei.de/DE/newsroom/dossier/coronavirus/coronavir...

[2] https://www.pei.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/newsroom/dossiers...

ekianjo5• 5 years ago

I'm reluctant to call bullshit on it, but

it's not because you can't find something in English that it does not exist.

onion2k3• 5 years ago

One of the amazing things about Google is that I can search in English and it'll actually search for things in every other language as well. So no, not that.

drukenemo3• 5 years ago

Using the traditional question “cui bono” (to whom is it a benefit?), why would such a thing be faked?

onion2k3• 5 years ago

why would such a thing be faked

It's impossible to answer a question like that without sounding like an Internet nutjob, but intelligence forces around the world have been tracking disinformation campaigns about vaccines, politics, etc for a long time. Here's a reputable source from this year - https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-disinformation-campaign...

The actual purpose of them is beyond me. I simply don't know why Russia, or China, or any nation state would do that sort of thing. It does happen though, so no doubt they have their reasons. "Because they can" maybe.

NoPie• 5 years ago

The use of "males" is common in medical literature. This probably is an evidence that the report is prepared by a medical writer instead of a journalist which gives more credence to its veracity.

By itself this is a very boring article with very little information but something that bureaucrats need to write or something like that.

yehosef• 5 years ago

you'd think an announcement from the health minister of G8 country would make more headlines.

The people that pay for the headlines are not interested in this news.

Health ministry warns of vaccine's side effects (Japan)

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