Covid: Double vaccinated can still spread virus at home

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59077036

by vimy • 5 years ago

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ohiovr3• 5 years ago

Makes a nice playground though for the virus to mutate in.

ohiovr3• 5 years ago

Alright then, why is it then that the people around me are getting covid when I'm unvaccinated when I was in direct physical contact with them but I am not? Why do you think sirens are blaring in my town and yours with such high vaccination rates? You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool them when they die. ICUs are being stuffed with people suffering from unknown causes. How long do you think your masters can keep this illusion alive? How long do you think the ministry of truth can keep this up? Maybe some of the shills got the saline. But eventually the record keeping will fail and they will get the real deal. 4 vaccine shots in 10 months? What did Einstein say about insanity again?

King-Aaron3• 5 years ago

Damn, it seems the broader internet is leaking into HN again

credit_guy2• 5 years ago

It looks like you are anti-vax and you'd like to debate with someone who's pro-vax. I'm one of those pro-vaxxers. In fact tomorrow I'll be getting my booster shot, and I'll get my annual flu shot too.

So, what exactly is your theory? That vaccines are water? That they are not? Is it a single theory, or you have multiple hypotheses? Who is trying to fool whom? Who are the "masters", and what "illusion" are they trying to keep?

I'm not sarcastic at all. Please articulate your thoughts, and I'll argue with you with complete honesty.

oblib2• 5 years ago

> ...but I am not?

We all have differences in our immune systems. Could be you have one that does a good job at fighting off covid.

Could be you got it but barely felt it or didn't notice it at all but you built an immunity to it just the same.

Could be you've not been exposed to enough of the virus to get infected and you will get it.

Could be none of the above.

One thing is for sure, those who've been vaxxed are less likely to get it for now. A variant could come up that changes that but we won't know until it does.

Markoff4• 5 years ago

you will get it eventually or you had it already

I am not vaxxed, had COVID in 2 weeks this October, 2 weeks of high fever with max. 2 short 1 day breaks, total fatigue, bad headaches, loss of smell, partial loss of taste

after 2 weeks it was like you would turn the switch off and I was basically healthy, left with sporadic weak coughing and no smell, though after 3 weeks smell returned and farts never smelled as good as before

would I get vaxxed after this experience? not really, I am healthy person, it was inconvenient, luckily I didnt have much work during that period and I work from home. but if they provided me with safe vaccine proven by decades of experience (inactivated virus) instead of these experimental vaccines first time in history used year (mRNA) or two (viral vector, ebola, 2019) ago I would probably take it even without restrictions and I'd recommend it to other healthy ppl, since I would consider it safe technology which works basically same as infection, unlike mRNA/viral vector pushed for reasons unknown to me, I am willing to pay extra for safe vaccine and they can keep these cheaper (easier to produce en masse) mRNA/VV vaccines for poor people who don't care about their health

vaccines work. do they work against infection? hardly, very inefficient. do they work against hospitalization? already better. do they work against death? pretty good, sure nowhere close to promised 90+ percents but from recent numbers at least in Czechia the efficacy against death (for risk groups) is ~75%, that's not bad if you are at risk of death

if you are risk group - get vaxxed, it surely has benefits against hospitalization and death, not much against infection.

if you are not risk group then it should be up to you without being forced by unscientific political restrictions, since vaccine will hardly change anything for you, at best will make your COVID more pleasant experience, if we had available safe inactivated virus vaccines I would say sure go for it, but since we have only mRNA/VV vaccines never used in history and nobody will guarantee safety of the technology in next 10 years, then their benefit for non-risk groups is questionable

oblib2• 5 years ago

This really isn't "News" at all. We know there are breakthrough infections and those infected can spread the virus.

Anyone who gets infected is a playground for the virus to mutate.

Markoff4• 5 years ago

the best idea ever - let's not test vaxxed to not discourage them from vaccination, so they can as asymptomatic spread virus under perfect conditions

a0-prw• 5 years ago

I've decided that death by covid is probably better than continuing to live in a world run by hysterical cowards and vicious elitists who choose to ignore the global damage that this ridiculous hysteria has caused (mostly to poor people and kids). Cheers;) Have a nice Friday

Covid: Double vaccinated can still spread virus at home

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