Fuck Medium

https://tengl.net/blog/2020/8/11/fuck-medium

by tiagoleifert • 5 years ago

99 38 5 years ago

Grustaf• 5 years ago

Is there some new rule on HN that headlines need to include the word "fuck"?

arbitrage• 5 years ago

I too am finding that my patience is wearing thin with this new memetic style of headline writing.

We can do better, and often do, around here.

jtbayly• 5 years ago

If this article wasn’t so filled with profanity, I’d share it with others. Some good arguments against Medium are presented.

swagonomixxx• 5 years ago

I agree wholeheartedly with the author. Not a lot of things irk me more than the Medium era of blogging. Aside from the shady practice of Medium itself, I feel like with it came the meme-infused blogs, which I personally dislike a lot. I don't mind diagrams, of course, but I feel like the memes are to pander to the "kids" of today (I'm not that old, but memes weren't until I was 21).

akhiluk• 5 years ago

My pet peeve with Medium is how they had zero profile customization options when they started off. No custom themes or design, the focus was (allegedly) on the content, not its presentation.

Last time I checked, they now let you personalize your profile and its design and include a custom username.medium.com URL for your profile. They became the very thing they said they weren't.

baxtr• 5 years ago

This is the ultimate click-bait for me, because it resonates so badly.

andrewtbham• 5 years ago

Medium is run by ev williams. He founded blogger and twitter. He is interviewed in Founders at Work. I actually paid for extra blogger features in the early 2000s during the .com bust.

It's hard to express how disappointed I am in medium. I have written several very popular articles and I don't have a subscription and can't read hardly anything on there. Also I found it confusing to tell if your article is behind a paywall. They pulled a major bait and switch.

ageitgey2• 5 years ago

Yep, you really have to have been an author during the time the switched to the non-optional optional paywall to know how much of a bait-and-switch it has been.

I was so mad, I made a python script to copy my medium posts to a Ghost blog instance: https://github.com/ageitgey/medium_to_ghost

toomuchredbull• 5 years ago

Must be a developer. Nothing is more annoying than searching for the answer to something and finding the answer on Medium. I had high hopes for Medium also but they have also earned my unending ire. Fuck Medium.

nailer• 5 years ago

Medium is the new Experts Exchange (seeming free content that's paywalled). Or the old Substack (good quality content and great typography).

bpodgursky• 5 years ago

My bet is that Substack is going to eat Medium alive.

Medium can coast for a while on inertia, but the payment-first model of substack, for authors you actually care about, is just miles ahead.

Pretty sure the rest of the search-engine traffic will be able to coast on the fact that substack has a real revenue stream from day 1.

dustinmoris• 5 years ago

Every year around Spring, Summer, Autumn and Winter we have an article trending on HN explaining how rubbish Medium is.

Yes we know it.

No need to tell us.

Just stop using it.

hobs• 5 years ago

And every quarter HN gets new users, and medium gets linked and people think its a good idea; there really isnt much of a living memory in a medium such as this.

andyljones• 5 years ago

This made me wonder 'Hey, could I just block Quora and Medium from my Google results altogether?'

Yep! There's an extension. No more towardsdatascience to trawl through, hooray!

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublacklist/pncfbmi...

SamBam• 5 years ago

Pintrest images from search too. There's an extension for that as well, but in the interest of having fewer extensions you can just search with `-site:pinterest.*`

joshspankit• 5 years ago

It would probably be nice to have a “Filter all sites with paywalls” checkbox that might get some sites reconsidering their walls.

taylodl• 5 years ago

I even signed up for a Medium account, figuring alright, they want some personal info in exchange for content. So now I get a daily digest of Medium articles - most of which I can't read because it requires "premium", i.e. paid, membership. Talk about a bait and switch! I've gotten to the point now where if I see an article is posted on Medium then I won't read it. It's better for my blood pressure that way.

edit: s/ready/read/

jansan• 5 years ago

I just recently realized that I don't read Mediom articles anymore. If I see Medium, it's a no-click. Not sure how that happened, but that slowly growing paywall was probably the reason. Also, I somehow never had a good feeling about Medium, but in theri early days I actually did enjoy reading a few of their articles.

chmaynard• 5 years ago

A while back I wrote to HN and asked them to add a domain-filter feature: a user-curated blacklist of domains whose articles the user doesn't wish to see. The list could be added to the HN user profile. Medium.com would be at the top of my list.

transfire• 5 years ago

I certainly like the idea of Medium. But read time is really a poor way to rate and pay writers. It incentives poor content. I would think a system based on up votes and bookmark saves would be much better.

Sanzig2• 5 years ago

Maybe I'm just living in 2008, but... what's wrong with just self-hosting a simple blog? Wordpress gets a lot of well-deserved hate (especially regarding feature bloat and security), but it's also very simple to spin up. A VPS is a couple bucks a month, and many hosts have a preconfigured ready-to-rock Wordpress image for less technical users.

It's obviously not the best solution if you want to monetize, but there are other options for that, like Ghost. But I'd be curious as to the fraction of Medium writers that actually turn out more than beer money from their articles.

It strikes me that a lot of Medium content is something that would have gone on a small personal blog in the past, rather than the premium content worth paying for that Medium seems to be aiming for.

ageitgey2• 5 years ago

I'm someone who has written a lot on Medium in the past and has grown a following in a niche because of that, so maybe I can explain the issue.

Originally, writing on Medium had nothing to do with making money from the writing. In the early days, just the fact that you were writing on Medium instead of your own blog gave you much better SEO and made you much more discoverable. It was much easier to reach a new audience vs. your own blog on your own new domain that will take 6 months for Google to rank in any search results. It was just a much more efficient way to actually have people read what you wrote.

The point where Medium became total trash is when they created an "optional" paywall, but they also made the paywall enabled by default and they give the author a bunch of scary warnings if they attempt disable it. Basically, they blackhole your content if you don't opt in and they won't ever recommend or promote it. So most people who don't care about making money still leave it on.

I still disable the paywall, but I imagine 90% of the content people hit that is paywalled is not because the author thinks they are going to make money. It's because Medium forced them down that path with dark ui patterns. It didn't used to be like that.

bad_username• 5 years ago

many hosts have a preconfigured ready-to-rock Wordpress image for less technical users.

I used one, and it was kept up to date by the hosting provider, and everything was great until it got hacked. And then the hosting company suspended my account, unless I bought some expensive security solution or fixed my site myself and proved it was safe. I ended up rebuilding the site as a static site and changing hosts. Anecdotal, but I won't bother with a self-hosted Wordpress again. It wasn't a noname hosting provider, either.

Cthulhu_2• 5 years ago

For developers, what I did was put my blog up on Github Pages. It's still on the GH subdomain, but I can get a custom domain for it as well.

I mean I don't actually actively use it despite my great Intent a few years back, but still.

ttt0• 5 years ago

Don't block cookies or use incognito mode. Do everyone a favor and archive the article with archive.is

mrweasel• 5 years ago

While not a fan, I understand Medium, and the people posting on Medium (well some of them). Fair enough that you want to allow people to make money on their writing, but I'm unsure if Medium has the right solution. They've ended up as a source of annoyance, and that's not a good place to be as a platform. On the other hand I have no better suggestions.

The Medium writers I don't get are the corporate/startup blogs. You a company, you're blog isn't part of your revenue stream, hopefully, so why not just have an S3 bucket with a static blog, or a Wordpress installation. It is just convenience?

Sanzig2• 5 years ago

I think you nailed it.

Somebody trying to earn some money from their writing - yeah, I get why they choose Medium. It sucks, but there's not really a tremendous amount of better options.

But the majority of Medium articles aren't that. They're promotional personal blogs (so why not just put those on your personal site?) or more often they're technical blogs written as marketing material for a company. That can easily be hosted on a company's own site with little effort.

afroisalreadyin2• 5 years ago

What really amazes me is that there isn't a similar blogging platform that is open source, easy to deploy and at least a little visually pleasing. I'm a developer, so I could use a static site generator, but I would like to deploy a blog for my mother, and I just couldn't find anything that fits the criteria. My personal blog at okigiveup.net is running on a nearly 8-year-old version of Ghost, which I can't update, because (1) they dropped Postgresql support and (2) their new business model is not friendly to self-hosted. It's rather frustrating that there isn't an alternative for which I can say "it's the default OSS solution, so I'll just go with it".

johnonolan2• 5 years ago

Founder of Ghost here - not sure how our business model (which has not changed) is unfriendly to self-hosting? Extensive docs and tools here: https://ghost.org/docs/install/

But let me know if there's anything I can help with

afroisalreadyin2• 5 years ago

There is the mentioned dropping of Postgres support. Postgres is much more popular than MySQL in open source circles, which makes me wonder why go with the latter. Sqlite is still supported, which makes this even more strange. Also, Ghost used to be a single-site publication platform: You would set up a blog with an admin user, and that would be it. Now it's a platform for creating multiple sites, and anyone can do it once you have installed Ghost. The default installer does not ask you a question to turn this off; I couldn't find it in the configuration options, either. The last time I was updating to current version of Ghost, between trying to figure out MySQL and finding out where to customize the site & user options, I gave up.

Thanks for putting the hard work into Ghost, but in the last couple of years, it went from "easy to use self-hosted blogging software" to "publishing platform with highly specific requirements", which is quite a change.

krapp2• 5 years ago

What really amazes me is that there isn't a similar blogging platform that is open source, easy to deploy and at least a little visually pleasing.

That's literally Wordpress. Installed by default on almost every shared host anywhere. There's even a free tier on wordpress.com.

I've tried static site generators - Lektor was the latest - but every one of them fell short of what I wanted in some way or another. But Wordpress always works.

wayneftw• 5 years ago

I think this entire line of reasoning eventually boils down to: Fuck capitalism.

That's fine with me.

Not sure what the hate for "Chrome users on Mac" is for though. Why not "Fuck Mac users" for supporting a company that is actively trying to bring down general purpose computing and user control over their own computing devices in the name of "security" but really for profit?

Personally, the way I deal with capitalist parasites is to put aside all desire and avoid getting locked into their crap. Outside of utility bills, taxes and mortgage - no product or service can hold me prisoner. If the leeches start sucking too hard, I simply drop them and find something else to do.

Xevi• 5 years ago

Fuck Chrome users on Macs, too, unless you are a web designer or developer.

I'm not a Mac user, but why is it so bad to use Chrome on a Mac?

waspight• 5 years ago

I dont get the hate. What are the options anyway? For a single author that want to make some money, Medium is probably the most convenient service. I suspect that it would be much harder to make money by hosting your own Wordpress blog for instance.

krapp2• 5 years ago

A blog shouldn't be a business model anyway. If you're good enough to attract and keep an audience, literally any other venue for writing work is probably more lucrative than blogging. Writing scripts and making Youtube videos would probably make more money.

CawCawCaw• 5 years ago

Color me as slightly disappointed that this piece wasn't published on Medium.