How to Call Something Russian Disinformation Without Evidence

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/10-ways-to-call-something-russian

by andrenth • 6 years ago

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valuearb4• 6 years ago

Does it matter if it’s Russian disinformation or disinformation from another interested party?

What we do know is the laptops at left at the repair shop makes little sense. Hunter was going to leave a handful of expensive computers for repair without following up and getting them back? The owner doesn’t even have his contact information?

Then you have Rudy not willing to allow anyone to examine the hard drive. If it was legit this is the easiest way to give the story credibility. Given his refusal, it seems very clear that the data on this hard drive was assembled after the fact.

Who has the technical resources to hack Hunter Biden’s accounts to assemble such a large trove of his personal emails and texts?

Russian Intelligence is by far the leading candidate and there is no one in second place.

It was a clever plan. Fill the drive with legit emails, photos, videos, and texts. Then salt them with a small set of carefully produced and incredibly damaging forgeries.

Release right before election, with enough time to maximize impact, but not enough time for anyone to detect the forgeries. Bam!

Was a good plan, but the press is far more savvy about these types of attempts now.

FandangoRanger• 6 years ago

Crack is wack. When you smoke crack you do crazy things, at least that's my impression of the drug.

skoskie• 6 years ago

The biggest BS flag is that the total invoice was for only $85. That’s pretty cheap for fixing multiple laptops. Nothing about the story adds up.

throwawayay02• 6 years ago

It was data recovery, data recovery is just taking the hard drive out, connect to another computer, run a piece of software that restores files, and put it back on the laptop.

Also, a correction for the parent, the person did leave Hunter Biden's contact information.

opwieurposiu• 6 years ago

The laptop is real. George Mesires, Hunter's lawyer, called the repair shop and asked for the laptop back. The biden campaign has not denied that the laptop is real.

The real question is will it change anything? I don't vote because my guy is an angel. I vote because my guy is the lesser of two evils. Who are these voters who think they are electing saints?

yadco• 6 years ago

Well if one of those guys gets caught, it shows he's an idiot as well.

valuearb4• 6 years ago

No one is saying Giuliani doesn’t have a real laptop. Just that there is no proof it belonged to Hunter Biden.

What evidence is there that Hunter’s lawyer called the shop?

And the Biden campaign doesn’t have to deny anything, there is no discernible crime in the dumped emails. The “centerpiece” is an email where Hunter is asked to arrange a meeting with his dad, yet no emails where Hunter agreed to do it, or his dad agreeing to do it, or confirming the meeting ever happened.

Whether that email is a planted forgery or not doesn’t even matter when it’s not evidence of any bad behavior.

valuearb4• 6 years ago

OMG Fox news had em! Tucker Carlson had the smoking gun documents that would have blown up the election but his producer sent them FHL and they magically disappeared!

Ohh, so close! If only done I’ve had invented a machine to copy documents with, they could have made copies and still had them!

timoth3y• 6 years ago

Taibbi is right as far as he goes. We don't know its Russian disinformation.

However, skepticism needs to run both ways.

The fact that we are not sure the Russians are behind it, does not mean we should accept this preposterous story. It clearly looks like disinformation of some kind.

In fact, all major media outlets (including Fox) and the FBI concluded this whole thing was fake, so the story is not what is on those drives, but how they came to be.

I think the message of "It's the Russians" is more palatable to the American news media and to America than "Let's investigate the Trump campaign and Trump's personal attorney."

It's not anti-Trump bias that's driving the "It's the Russians" narrative.

How to Call Something Russian Disinformation Without Evidence

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