Where can a guy find freelance work nowadays?

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by jamongkad • 18 years ago

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Hi I'm currently looking for some freelance work to do and I'm not sure if this is the right place to post. So really my question is do any of you gents know of reputable sites I can post myself in so that prospective (employers|startups|companies) can hire me to do some contractual work for them and would allow me to work remotely. The latter is optional though. Thank you!

pjackson• 18 years ago

I know some people who have had success with odesk.com and elance.com. It looks like a bidding war on those sites, though, so you have to build some reputation before you can command higher rates.

For my money, the best people to talk to about freelance work are design firms, boutique consulting companies, and recruiters. They always seems to have some expertise they're missing and willing to subcontract out.

Make some calls to firms you trust or have heard of and ask. It may be harder in terms of effort, but I'd bet you'll land a better gig that way.

vikas5678• 18 years ago

I do freelance work from odesk, its not all bidding though, you can bid on fixed price projects, but you can also find jobs which pay by the hour. Mind you, odesk takes like 10 % of the payment.

sdurkin• 18 years ago

My sister hires web developers for her company off elance frequently.

patrickg-zill• 18 years ago

The answer is "everywhere". I don't know the kind of work you do, however if you have not freelanced before, I recommend trying to get work locally, as it may be easier to gain the confidence of your customer if you meet them face to face every so often.

aasarava• 18 years ago

You can try going to industry events (check upcoming.org for startup related events in your town.) I found my first real contracting gig by meeting and chatting with the CEO of a startup at such an event. I later checked the company's Web site and saw that they were looking for development help.

You can also try asking friends or acquaintances who are contracting if they have any overflow work or need a hand on any current projects. Offer to subcontract at a lower rate than the friend charges his/her client. (Just make sure the friend is allowed to hire subcontractors for the given job.)

Finally, try looking for part-time / contracting gigs on Craigslist.

sosueme• 18 years ago

What do you code and where are you?

SingAlong• 18 years ago

I used to be a frequent bidder on getafreelancer but quickly noticed the pattern. Only the premium members or those with reputation get hired. And there's a bidding war. And most of the times the project listing is cancelled during the end bidding date(!). Now since everyone's talking about elance and odesk, they must be crowded too.

Now I need a few dollars to bootstrap my startup. So I started looking for mashup and web development contests. Ofcourse, you make money only if you win. But if you are dedicated you will win. The most important thing in contests is the idea and the way you present the idea as a working app.

You can't depend on contests if are looking for a way to feed yourself. I am just depending on them for that extra cash I need to bootstrap my idea into company.

http://programmableweb.com/contests lists mashup contests. http://99designs.com list webdesign contests (if anyone knows more just pour them in)

If you have chosen to do freelance work as your mainstream profession and looking for your first set of clients, then why don't build a portfolio first? Build an app that helps your kid brother in his geometry homework or build a webapp that does event management for locality... Just build anything to show-off your skills. And then show people your work, so when they look at your work, they 'must' feel that they have found a guy who can do it (you proved it with samples).

I have a question too. Does anyone know any agencies that deal with outsourcing freelance work? What are these agencies called?

astrec• 18 years ago

Sitepoint marketplace: http://marketplace.sitepoint.com/

jeffrey-dalton• 18 years ago

Howdy... for what it is worth I have built a consulting business, believe it or not, by answering higher end ads from Craigslists. The "secret" is to use the RSS features of Craigslist and run multiple search feeds in an RSS reader like NetNewsWire that lets you sort and mark them... I run searches like "CSS" "UI design" etc.. Run those same searches all over the country for your area of expertise. Have a kick ass portfolio online, solid references, and send out emails everyday to answer the quality ads... and rock the initial interviews... I have literally been consulting full time doing custom app and drupal theming from Craigslist for two years... my site: www.jeffreydalton.info

gruseom• 18 years ago

Very interesting. I'm curious to know whether you maintain these projects long-term, or do you hand off your work and have done with it?

chez17• 18 years ago

Doesn't the step "have a kick ass portfolio online" seem unhelpful to someone who is just starting out?

jamongkad3• 18 years ago

I think he meant build it up to a kick ass portfolio? hahaha yes I am starting out.

walesmd• 18 years ago

All of my work is via word-of-mouth and I would have it no other way. Unintentionally, I have postured myself as an "Expert" within the CodeIgniter community. Frequent posts on the forums, a geniune desire to help people and promote the community, and an active blog in which the community participates are all contributing factors to this status.

Clients come to me for work and all of my clients have come to me for repeat work after the fact. I give them my hourly rate, which is lower than most US-based coders but significantly hire than offshore, and an estimate of the total hours their project will require.

They either take it or leave it - no bidding and worrying about whether I'm going to pick that client up. There's a long line of potential clients behind him if he turns the offer down.

I guess the mentality is a bit different, in the way I freelance. Not to sound prudent, but I envision the relationship as the client competing for me, not I competing for the client. I don't need the money, it's a nicety - if the project doesn't interest me, the client seems like an idiot, or I'm just to busy, I can turn it down with no worries.

xgamerx• 18 years ago

If you are good with javascript (prototype) + html + css, The startup I work for may have some freelance contract work for you to do. Anyone looking for some work email me at nate@quub.com

gigawatt• 18 years ago

For me, it's almost all referrals from past clients or peers. I realize that doesn't really answer your question, though. Sometimes I check http://www.artypapers.com/jobpile/ and http://joblighted.com/. They aggregate a bunch of job boards and have more than a few freelance gigs mixed in. I've gotten a job or two and a few interviews through them.

jamongkad3• 18 years ago

Hi everybody and thanks for the quick and informative replies. I think I should have been more upfront with my skillset and what not. In a past life I used to do alot of J2ME development. Then I made the jumped to RoR (it was ok...) until I finally settled on using CodeIgniter. Loved it to bits then forked my own version. I'm currently the maintainer and contributor to the Functional PHP Extension Library(lib that allows the uses of funtional programming idioms to PHP).

@walesmd Believe it or not I used to frequent the CodeIgniter forums when it was first starting out. I do see your name there alot. Although I forked CI and created my own private little framework. I recently came back and introduce the Functional PHP Extension library to the folks at CI(I'm currently the maintainer and contributer). Is there any work I can get via the CodeIgniter Forums?

@Jeffrey-dalton Hey Jeffrey, I will definitely look at Craigslist. Maybe you could give me some referrals? I would love to discuss this with you via email of course.

@sosueme I've done a fair amount of J2ME in a past life of mine. But now I'm pretty much focused on PHP development(please look at my reply to walesmd) and I've done alot of work using jQuery. I'm a US Citizen based here in South East Asia.

@xgamerx To be honest I haven't touched Prototype in while....fell in love with jQuery. I mostly do PHP(using forked CI) + jQuery. Maybe we could discuss this over email?

richesh• 18 years ago

From my personal experience there no better place to post then to send an email to your professional network (maybe use LinkedIn now). Specially if you want to be able to work remotely, and get good contract without worrying about consequences and risks.

paulsilver• 18 years ago

I do similar stuff - PHP & ColdFusion coding, and search engine promotion. I get freelance work from the following sources, in order of the amount of work: 1 - Previous clients 2 - Partnerships & referrals through friends (many of them met through 3) 3 - Networking 4 - People finding my website 5 - Forums

I run a local networking group for freelancers ( http://www.brightonfarm.com ) so get a lot of work through that. If you can find some local freelancers, it's well worth teaming up with them as you'll either have complimentary skills or can refer work direct to each other when you're too busy.

I'm lucky because I live in an area with a lot of small tech companies, which is close to London which has a heck of a lot of work opportunities.

If you're trying to attract work when you don't know anyone locally, and you can't find any business networking groups, then mailing lists and forums can provide work. A simple way of getting is to post that you need some work (good for a short term boost.) More subtle is to put "I'm a freelance _____ programmer" in your signature on forums/e-mail with contact details and links to your website. I've had work from doing the latter, although I get better quality work from the other sources listed above.

You might find the sites http://www.freelanceswitch.com and http://www.freelanceadvisor.co.uk useful, they've both got podcasts as well.

[edit - getting links to work]

ideas101• 18 years ago

may be i can help - whats your email?

jamongkad3• 18 years ago

my email is wrm932@gmail.com

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