Stop Using Internet Explorer

https://mashable.com/article/internet-explorer-vulnerability-just-stop-using-it/

by srevo • 7 years ago

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jonny_eh• 7 years ago

I'm assuming Edge is ok? It'd be great if the article mentioned that MS has a newer browser.

fragsworth• 7 years ago

It reads like a hit piece to get people to switch away from Edge in case they think it's the same thing as IE. Everyone still calls it "IE", even though they're referring to Edge.

lugg• 7 years ago

Changing the name of something in attempt to rebrand causes confusion.

I'm shocked.

dpark• 7 years ago

Everyone still calls it "IE", even though they're referring to Edge.

Citation? Is this actually a thing?

Honestly I don’t believe you, mostly because your scenario involves people actually using Edge in sufficient volume that “everyone calls it IE” is supposed to be a meaningful thing.

Vanderson2• 7 years ago

Edge is no longer a purely Microsoft product, it's now based on Chrome(Chromium) [0], or will be soon, I haven't followed this closely.

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/12/06/micro...

senectus13• 7 years ago

thats not quite true. Edge BETA is the chromium based.

Edge is still wholly MS

thrower1232• 7 years ago

Edge was never ok.

senectus13• 7 years ago

or you know... patch it :-P

the patch is out there already you know.

denkmoon• 7 years ago

Gonna go out on a limb here and say that anyone still using IE isn't going to be persuaded away from it by a fancy blog post.

wyqydsyq• 7 years ago

Gonna take a wild guess that anyone reading HN probably hasn't used IE in the last decade aside from the purpose of downloading another browser

aquarin• 7 years ago

I am gonna guess, this is not true. Some are required to use it in corporate environment.

pintxo2• 7 years ago

Some might use it to test stuff still works for their users/customers.

calgoo• 7 years ago

I had to use it today to connect to some old activeX iLo console for a server. Our internal HR module also only works with IE.

alkonaut• 7 years ago

Guess again. It's not by choice, though.

mcv• 7 years ago

On the corporate laptop I'm currently using, IE still is (or was, until recently) the default browser with no possibility to change that setting, despite company policy that we shouldn't use IE anymore. Wrap your head around that one.

C1sc0cat3• 7 years ago

I use IE as my standard browser my chrome and firefox are set up for different usages with ton of plugins

C1sc0cat3• 7 years ago

Its also the stock bowser on the dominant os any one serious about web development must support IE.

The problem is when lazy developers use short cuts and make sites that only work on IE - quite how they mange to do this I have no idea.

vardump• 7 years ago

Isn't IE marketshare only a few percent if that?

diffeomorphism• 7 years ago

Its also the stock bowser on the dominant os

Which OS? The stock browser of Windows 10 is Edge not IE.

hathawsh• 7 years ago

Sigh... some services still require IE.

https://www.frbservices.org/fedline-solutions/service-setup/...

Not even Edge is acceptable. Then they throw in Java applets to broaden the attack surface.

shkkmo• 7 years ago

JRE, Flash and IE... what could possibly go wrong

reustle2• 7 years ago

Shinsei bank in Japan requires IE (not edge) to use online banking. Macs aren't supported.

makeupsomething• 7 years ago

This seems to be the case for most banks in Japan. Also a lot of government services. Last year I ended up posting some documents to immigration because I could not get their online form to work.

pixelcort• 7 years ago

I am able to load Shinsei in Chrome earlier this year, was this a recent change? Do you mean banking or another service?

kekepepe• 7 years ago

That is not true, I am able to use Shinsei on Mac with Firefox just fine.

thrower1232• 7 years ago

Try to download a code signing cert from Thawte/Digicert...

phillc73• 7 years ago

I can not use the Croatian government website,[1] where one can buy a fishing licence, with anything other than IE. Despite the website insinuating that other browsers will work, if I just enable cookies (which I have!), only IE is successful.

[1] https://ribarstvo.mps.hr/default.aspx?id=5010

juststeve3• 7 years ago

sites that require iE is like 0.001%

jbverschoor• 7 years ago

No chrome, no ie.. What is left is safari and firefox

PikachuEXE• 7 years ago

Vivaldi, Palemoon, Brave

If you don't like any Chromium browser then Palemoon

tapland• 7 years ago

Opera has been a great Chromium experience for me.

I see many recommending Brave. What are the benefits of it over for example Opera?

voldacar• 7 years ago

Palemoon has sub-par font rendering, at least on Win 7

juststeve3• 7 years ago

vivaldi is closed source

mister_hn• 7 years ago

Corporate Environment / Active Directory Federations / Windows Group Policy Enforcements / SSPNEGO or Kerberos or SmartCard Login with IE.

Yeah sure, the new Edge Chromium is light years away from this

snvzz• 7 years ago

Articles like this are a dime a hundred. I'm not sure why this was even submitted, much less how it made it to the front page.

juststeve3• 7 years ago

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pintxo2• 7 years ago

On a related note, I just got an email from Atlassian, that they will stop supporting IE11 sometime early 2020.

Angostura2• 7 years ago

I will - just as soon as our Sharepoint installation properly supports other browsers.

That ain't going to happen though, is it?

sgt• 7 years ago

I think you'll just need to rewrite that Sharepoint that app first.

wjnc• 7 years ago

My company uses SharePoint and Chrome. What are we missing? As a light user I've not yet missed a thing.

fowl2• 7 years ago

great big list of stuff that only fully works in IE here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sharepoint/install/browser-...

tobr• 7 years ago

It sounds like you should try to upgrade to a modern employer.

zaat4• 7 years ago

That will solve his problem, but there are millions of employees out there relying on the same old stack and it isn't going to be replaced in the next few years, despite the failing support and the better alternatives. Replacing all those systems will take time and money in large quantities.

ekianjo• 7 years ago

Can you actually delete IE from windows as the article recommends? I thought it was an integral part of the system?

spondyl• 7 years ago

You can disable IE11 under Settings -> Enable Windows Features from what I remember

tenebrisalietum• 7 years ago

IE from my understanding is basically a big wrapper around mshtml.dll which is a Windows component.

andyjohnson0• 7 years ago

Another "IE required" datapoint:

I recently had to buy an Authenticode code-signing certificate. The only way to download it was to add it to the browser certificate store and export it from there. And the only browser that the vendor supported for the add-to-store operation was IE.

fouc• 7 years ago

Stop Using Chrome Immediately

baud147258• 7 years ago

The product we're selling is doing smartcards issuances via the browser, using an ActiveX app, so the user has to use IE. We've asked multiple time for the budget to do the change to a modern browser, but the POs has refused each time.

milankragujevic3• 7 years ago

Serbian government's digital ID system only works in IE8 (or compatibility mode in newer IE browsers). It's required to do ANY kind of work with the ID cards, including digitally signing documents, filing reports and any communication with the government. Every store or service provider, bank, anything, MUST use IE to be able to read the card (of course, if they want to use a browser -- you can always use a proprietary program and libraries to do so in a native Win32 app. )

babuskov2• 7 years ago

Every ... bank ... MUST use IE to be able to read the card

That is not true. Raiffeisen has their own e-banking solution that works with all major browsers. It even supports macOS. It used to support Linux before, but I haven't tested since 2016 or so, so I'm not sure about that. I have been using it since 2013 or so with Firefox exclusively.

It's required to do ANY kind of work with the ID cards, including digitally signing documents, filing reports and any communication with the government.

You can also use Firefox to submit tax reports. I have done it this year without problems. You need to use Windows, though.

milankragujevic3• 7 years ago

You might have misunderstood me. You don't need IE to use the bank's services. The bank's employees have to use IE if they want to access ID card data. (though most banks use Win32 software exclusively, and don't use web apps, but Telenor Banka does, and they all use IE8).

Wherever you need to read the ID card, you cannot use anything other than IE. For example, if you have to verify identity, you cannot use Firefox to grant access to the ID card.

That's my experience at least.

strenholme• 7 years ago

As a webmaster of a pure HTML + CSS static site, I can and do make sure my site still renders in Internet Explorer. Which means, of course, I need to have Internet Explorer to make sure any changes to the site design are still readable in IE.

I also have a copy of Safari for Windows to make sure my page is Safari compatible. I even have Opera 12 to make sure my pages look good with the older Presto rendering engine, as well as Lynx to make sure things look good in a text-only browser without Javascript.

There is a place for putting a full Javascript application and framework in a browser, but a basic “here is my resume and my blog which I update about once a month” page isn’t one of them.

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throwmeback• 7 years ago

I recently worked on a project with a big finance/insurance company. Their IT still uses W7 and IE. "Well it just works for us"

Let's just say I was baffled - I really thought it's all a meme until I saw it with my own eyes.

kissgyorgy• 7 years ago

The people still using Internet Explorer will never read an article like this.

magwa101• 7 years ago

stop using chrome, firefox, brave, just curl | awk.

Stop Using Internet Explorer

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