The first privately owned EPIC camera has already been stolen

http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=53549

by acangiano • 16 years ago

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pierrefar• 16 years ago

For those who don't know, what is so special about this camera?

kls• 16 years ago

I second this, while I get that it is the only one, what makes it so special, was it a prototype, is it some sort of super collector version?

protomyth3• 16 years ago

These are pre-production final versions of the camera.

Edit: http://fxguide.com/redcentre episode 77 describes it - best podcast show notes I have seen

mashmac23• 16 years ago

This specific EPIC is special in that it's #6, the only one in the 'wild' right now.

http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=53099

(Numbers 1-5 were kept by Jim, the next few are going to the early, early owners of the RED ONE, so they are certainly exclusive).

protomyth3• 16 years ago

It's the follow on improved version of the Red One. It is smaller, shoots 5k images, and dollar for dollar one of the best values in digital cameras. It is currently being used on multiple movies and its RAW files are very nice.

It also stamps all footage with its serial number.

mashmac23• 16 years ago

This camera is the next evolution of the RED ONE camera, which shot 4K resolution... the EPIC-M shoots 5K resolution. 5K resolution is huge. Take your 1920x1080 monitor and multiply by 5.

Because of this resolution, it is compared (favorably) to film in many ways, something that digital hasn't been able to do yet.

Also, RED has a very passionate userbase, very similar to Apple.

psadauskas• 16 years ago

5K refers to the width, not the height. So 2.5 times a 1920x1080 monitor.

johnohara• 16 years ago

http://epic.red.com/epic.html

ronnier• 16 years ago

That's one of the coolest pieces of equipment I've ever seen.

Keyframe• 16 years ago

It falls into a price range that doesn't exist outside of that company's products. Auxiliary products like lenses and stuff is pretty much the same price (since they aren't produced by that company).

ghshephard• 16 years ago

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Digital_Cinema_Camera_Compa...

"The Red Digital Cinema Camera Company manufactures digital cinematography cameras and accessories for professional and cinematic use. The company was created and financed by Oakley founder Jim Jannard with the publicly expressed intent to reinvent the camera industry. The company's main product is the Red One, which can record at resolutions up to 4,096 horizontal by 2,304 vertical pixels, directly to flash or hard disk storage. It features a single Super 35-sized CMOS sensor and a cinematography industry standard PL mount."

"Epic Brains will record a data rate of 225 MB/s. The sensor sizes will be Super 35, 135 film, 645 (medium format), and 617, equivalent to the Linhof Technorama camera (the 617 will record a data-rate of 500 MB/s). Horizontal resolutions will range from 5k to 28k (the latter is the equivalent of 261 megapixels) and could be printed onto 70 mm IMAX 15/70 without the need for the IMAX Digital Media Remastering (DMR). "

seanalltogether2• 16 years ago

One additional thing to note is you can rent 4 of these for the cost of a single panavision film camera, excluding the now unnecessary cost of film stock. Tell a director he can have up to 4 cameras on a scene and keep them running all day with no additional cost and you have a very happy director.

forgotusername• 16 years ago

Nice, that's only 18Tb of storage (I think) required to record 225Mb/sec literally all day.

protomyth3• 16 years ago

RED is offering a 100k reward http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=53561

proee• 16 years ago

Since it stamps all footage with the serial number, how is this device going to be useful to anyone?

joeguilmette• 16 years ago

perhaps it was stolen by someone who does not know its value?

davidcollantes• 16 years ago

Industrial espionage would not care about that. They are after something else.

Bud2• 16 years ago

This comment seems right on target. This was stolen so somebody can duplicate the technology and learn from it. This won't be fenced.

mhb• 16 years ago

So why not wait a few months and buy one?

quizbiz2• 16 years ago

   I'm not so worried about a competitor getting hold of this 
   camera. If they did, I'm quite sure they would call us and 
   return it... right after they said "we can't believe you 
   actually did this!".

   http://reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=701458&postcount=30

mtw2• 16 years ago

How is this "hacker news" material? it was a production camera, not a prototype, stolen probably by thieves who had no idea what it was.

hopeless• 16 years ago

From the discussion in the link, it seems that the unfortunate victim had previously discussed his holiday plans. If this was anything other than a random attack, that information "leakage" could have been a contributing factor. Issues of privacy, openness, and information security are all long-standing HN themes.

mtw2• 16 years ago

ok but how is it different from the millions of people using Facebook or foursquare stating when they leave home or where they leave their precious gear? Lots of cases of people who got their ferrari or jaguar xkrs stolen because they bragged about holidays on facebook.

It seems a lot of noise for me for just one camera. The new PMW-F3s from Sony costs as much as one epic and are as formidable/game-chaning as the epic, but apparently everything about RED should be seen like big news...

hapless• 16 years ago

Seeing as it's nearly one-of-a-kind, that's going to be really hard to fence.

If you have the kind of skills required to sell this stolen camera, you might as well have gone into enterprise sales or something, and avoided the whole "grand larceny" rap.

bsk• 16 years ago

Yeah, right. Enterprises like to check ppl history before hiring them. One can have mad skills and still be unable to find a job or business opportunity.

ck22• 16 years ago

(update: I somehow read it wrong, it wasn't the car, it was their house)

Not that it's their fault they are a victim of a terrible crime, but seriously, who would leave that in a car overnight?

I don't even leave my factory radio in the car overnight. Thieves are stupid and will break a window just to find out later they got nothing, you cannot "out logic" them, as there is no logic.

millerc• 16 years ago

May I point out the camera was not in a car. The perpetrators actually robbed a house full of adults and children, while everyone was sleeping. It's almost a miracle nobody was hurt/killed.

ck22• 16 years ago

Wow you are 100% right, how the heck did I miss it was a house and not a car?

Sorry about that!

puredemo• 16 years ago

Very few burglars hurt or kill people. Hardly a miracle.

MrFoof• 16 years ago

Not necessarily.

I have to dig up which car, and to whom it was originally given to, but when Audi RS's were still produced exclusively by Quattro GmbH, and not sold by Audi dealers, one particular Formula 1 (or Le Mans) driver had his stolen. People were home at the time.

No one saw anyone enter or leave. A kitchen or patio door was broken to disengage the lock, the keys taken, the car taken, and that's all she wrote.

Rumor was organized crime, since Audi RS*s were popular rides for high level mafia. Needless to say, the vehicle was never recovered, and this wasn't the first high profile incident in which an Audi RS was stolen. Even when not stolen from high-profile individuals, the keys were lifted with the owners on the premises, without anyone being the wiser to the car being gone.

quizbiz2• 16 years ago

Just curious, how much is it worth?

The first privately owned EPIC camera has already been stolen

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