Vladimir Komarov went on a space suicide mission to save his best friend, Yuri

https://twitter.com/DMOberhaus/status/1116939111368097792

by n0pe_p0pe • 7 years ago

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kzcqt• 7 years ago

The Pence remark was completely unnecessary and infuriating. I thought this was some educative chain of tweets and it ended in "orang man bad". Very anticlimactic.

dagenix• 7 years ago

It's the _entire_ point of the piece. And it's not really all that much of a political statement. The message is pretty clear: don't send people to die in space for stupid-ass political reasons.

xeeeeeeeeeeenu• 7 years ago

What makes you think that Trump's administration is/will be "sending people to die in space"?

abduhl2• 7 years ago

Everyone sent into space was for a political reason. Whether or not you think it's a stupid-ass reason is more of a reflection on yourself than the message.

tomatotomato37• 7 years ago

As a counterpoint, sending people to space for stupid-ass political reasons resulted in one of humanity's greatest technological achievements that allowed us to put the plaque up there in the first place.

05• 7 years ago

Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it

HillRat• 7 years ago

Generally I’ve found that those who forget history tend to condemn others to repeat it for them.

duxup4• 7 years ago

It's a warning to avoid making reckless decisions purely for political gain.

I feel like that childish "orange man bad" quote comes up as a reaction to anything potentially perceived as negative as if nobody could ever make a valid a comment, observation, write a story, whatever.

hitekker• 7 years ago

Yep, "orange man bad" is a thought terminating cliche [1]. Intended to position the speakers above his or her opponents, but without a hint of self-awareness necessary for efficacy outside of the echo-chamber. The label itself sounds so puerile that it ironically paints the speakers as mindless as the ones they're trying to paint as mindless.

"This is an insult that stupid people think makes them sound smarter than other stupid people," as I've heard before.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_clich%C3%A...

ncmncm• 7 years ago

This is the most tragically inspiring story of the modern era.

ignoramous• 7 years ago

related discussions:

2011: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2342677

2016: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11072718

mirror: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1116939111368097792.html

m0zg2• 7 years ago

Top post on the 2016 version of this repost, links to an NPR article that debunks the whole thing: https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2011/05/03/135919389/a...

neffy• 7 years ago

Well... it doesn't exactly debunk it, does it Comrade?

I'm with the authors, I wouldn't trust a Soviet era transcript of a space mission, anymore I would of a show trial.

enoch_r• 7 years ago

"Debunked" is a pretty strong word. The disputed elements of the story are mostly based on the account of one person (Venyamin Russayev, the KGB minder assigned to Yuri Gagarin) and they are contradicted by official transcripts and the memoirs of the people involved.

But, this occurred in the USSR, so I don't think we really know what happened with any high level of certainty.

newman8r• 7 years ago

Good article. It sounds like the true story will never fully be known.

fao_2• 7 years ago

So, as the article says, the majority of the facts about the story are true, and the things that make it memorable -- the 'embellishments' -- have dubious sources and rely on eyewitness accounts only. Pretty much like most other stories like this (Check out the inaccuracies in the Apollo 13 movie, for example).

How exactly does that debunk the entire thing?

mannykannot3• 7 years ago

I don't think the transcript of the descent is plausible - no mention of the problem with the parachutes?

readhn• 7 years ago

thanks for the links!

gigatexal• 7 years ago

Damnit I hate crying to stuff I see on twitter.

FabHK• 7 years ago

More on this informative site by a Russian space geek now living in the US:

http://russianspaceweb.com/soyuz1.html

Vladimir Komarov went on a space suicide mission to save his best friend, Yuri

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