AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-user-publishes-benchmarks-overclocking-results-ahead-of-launch/

by O_H_E • 8 years ago

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mciancia• 8 years ago

Clickbait, overclocked Ryzen 7 2700X scores the same as i7 7820X.

It's a bit different story

O_H_E2• 8 years ago

Sorry, please don't judge the site. This is my own title. Can you please elaborate on how is it a different story?

kevindqc• 8 years ago

Is it overclocked though? The article says it was overclocked to 4.3GHz. But that CPU has a turbo clock of 4.2GHz [1]. So maybe a 0.1 GHz overclock at most? Or none at all? That Intel CPU has a turbo clock of 4.5GHz, so AMD beats Intel at a lower clock speed? But then I read that turbo clock only affects the two most used cores... I guess it's pretty hard to compare lol

1. https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/ryzen_2700x_spott...

sp3322• 8 years ago

That's the maximum turbo clock, which only kicks in when one or two cores are in use. Getting all cores to that speed does count as an overclock.

bazooka_penguin• 8 years ago

The max turbo (xfr) is 4.35ghz. But it rarely hits that

pcr0• 8 years ago

For about $100 cheaper..

The big news here is Intel not having a monopoly on desktop CPUs anymore. I personally remember Intel being the only serious CPU choice for building a desktop since at least 2015. Now a lot of low-medium high desktop builds are using Ryzen instead for the perf/$.

digi_owl• 8 years ago

Thats because AMD basically bet the farm on the GPU replacing the FPU for doing floating point math, but never got any real traction for it on the OS level.

dragontamer4• 8 years ago

For about $100 cheaper..

More than that. An AM4 motherboard is way cheaper than Intel Extreme FCLGA2066 systems.

By the end of the day, you're $200 cheaper once you account for a completed build (motherboard, RAM, CPU) compared to a FCLGA2066 + i7-7820X system.

Really, the i7-7820X competes against Threadripper 1900X. Quad-channel memory and all that good stuff. The REAL competitor to the Ryzen 2700X is the Intel i7-8700k, which has outstanding price/performance and relatively cheap motherboards too.

Hopefully we'll see more reviewers compare these two chips. Ryzen 2700X vs i7-8700k is the real battle.

VladTheImplier• 8 years ago

Lovely news! This is my next CPU after many years of my trusty FX8350@4.8 GHz. Last time I waited for the second revision of the architecture to avoid the usual launch hurdles. Christmas is apparently coming in April this year.

letsgetsilly• 8 years ago

Same here. As a web developer and gamer it's hard to ignore the Intel lineup, but I'm a big fan of supporting the under-dog, and it makes it easy when there's so much value packed in.

I assume that motherboards with new chipsets will be released as well, but I've heard less about them.

O_H_E2• 8 years ago

The Ryzen 2 lineup should work on the same AM4 socket, AMD claims that the newer X470 chipset will give better performance.

sunstone• 8 years ago

FX-6300 over here. Been waiting to upgrade for a while and looking forward one of these new AMD cpus.

nobleach9• 8 years ago

As someone who purchased (early adopted) the Ryzen 5 2400g APU a couple of days after release, I regret every bit of it. We still don't have any motherboards that support it well. I've heard the ASUS boards do okay but they have to be flashed to a new BIOS version (with a different processor in the socket). I'm glad that folks like the hype, but the reality is just terrible.

agumonkey2• 8 years ago

what would a good motherboard support bring ? (open question)

nobleach9• 8 years ago

Processor support? Voltages set reasonably. Just a decent burn in period before sending it out the door. Currently I'm running an ASRock B350M Pro4... and I can't keep that thing running more than 30 minutes. It's not high load that causes the freezing. It's just terrible on every front.

frou_dh• 8 years ago

The first generation Ryzen 7 rollout was a bit of a mess as well. What with the (understandably) immature BIOSes, and tons of people RMAing CPUs to be replaced due to the segfaulting issue.

AMD seem gaffe-prone. See also the pre-launch hype vs reality of Vega in the gaming space.

shmerl5• 8 years ago

And there is still this: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196683

AlphaSite• 8 years ago

Fist gen ryzen desktop had the same sot of teething troubles ever CPU has tbh, but they were somewhat moe publicised and a little bigger (not huge but bigger) due to the cleanroom design.

prolepunk• 8 years ago

I got it running on asrock ab350 gaming-itx/ac issues found so far:

- No dual screen support (the board has 2xHDMI 1.4). The fix is in firmware 4.51A which is still in beta

- When installing debian needed to use vga=771 in the console

- X11 would freeze a few times but with Linux 4.15.0-2-amd64 that issue seem to have been fixed

jacquesm• 8 years ago

That's why you typically wait to be 'second best' when new tech hits the market. In the current climate 'early adopter' should actually be interpreted as 'beta tester'.

AmVess• 8 years ago

I built a standard (non gfx) Ryzen to replace my old back up box, and it's been 99% fine. The only issue is the slow POST time, but that's an MSI thing and not a Ryzen thing.

The rollout of new mainboards and Zen+(non gfx integrated) CPU's should be a lot smoother than their initial effort since they've all had a year to learn from their mistakes.

zitterbewegung• 8 years ago

Other than the BIOS issue I have had no problems with the Ryzen 5 2400G. I have an ASRock board. I tried running Warframe on only the APU but I think I need more memory which is very expensive so I put in an GTX 650.

If memory prices go down I should be able to use it with only the processor.

nobleach9• 8 years ago

I did 16gigs of 3200. Be careful as the processor will only support 2400 or 2600Mhz (I can't remember off the top of my head) I don't mind the actual layout or operation of the BIOS. I did have to upgrade it to recognize my M2 NVMe. I've just been trying anything I can to get the thing stable.... to no avail.

linuxftw• 8 years ago

I regret every bit of it.

Why make a statement without even one item of support as to why you regret it?

The ASUS board problem sounds inconvenient, to say the least, but the way your phrased it implies it doesn't effect you in particular.

Comments on a popular online electronics retailer's website seem to be positive for this model.

pdabbadabba• 8 years ago

I'm pretty sure he regretted it because "[w]e still don't have any motherboards that support it well."

nobleach9• 8 years ago

No, I've heard good things about the ASUS. The ASRock (which is what I bought) is absolutely terrible. I regret buying the ASRock because I now have a computer that freezes constantly. It's not related to processor load or heat. It simply just doesn't work well at all. Sometimes an hour, sometimes 5 minutes....

I'm hoping I'm phrasing this well enough.

invesari• 8 years ago

Updating BIOS is a common thing for newly released CPUs. Things like that are expected if you're building the PC yourself.

whalesalad• 8 years ago

But needing a different chip in the socket? That’s definitely not common and for many not even possible.

zenexer• 8 years ago

I've built a lot of machines, and I've never had to update BIOS just to get a standard CPU working.

ww520• 8 years ago

I got a Ryzen 7 1800X machine from Dell and regret it. It crashes with different BSOD error codes from time to time. A great benchmark is useless if it can't be used smoothly.

GiorgioG• 8 years ago

I wouldn't blame the CPU as much as I would blame Dell. I have had a Threadripper 1950x (2 Ryzen 7 1800X on the same chip IIRC) since launch day and have not had any stability issues (unless I try to overclock it over 4GHZ - but that's my own fault/doing.)

jdietrich• 8 years ago

The launch of Ryzen G was undoubtedly botched, but AMD did offer a CPU loan program for anyone who needed it:

https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-will-lend-you-an-older-processor...

nobleach9• 8 years ago

Isn't that for updating the bios on a board that won't boot with a Ryzen in the socket? It's a 10 day loan.

theandrewbailey• 8 years ago

I bought a 2400G with a motherboard[0] a day after release. It surprised me that the board came with a compatible BIOS out of the box. (I was thinking that I might have to take my 1800X out of my main rig to flash it.) I built the machine for a friend, and he's been doing some light gaming on it (with a discrete GPU). I ask him every now and then how it's doing, and he says there are no problems.

[0] https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681315...

shmerl5• 8 years ago

So what's the best upgrade path from 1700X, 2700 or 2700X? 2700X sounds more like an upgrade from 1800X.

TwoNineA• 8 years ago

Why do you want to upgrade the 1700X? What does the 2000 line bring other than a 15% (being very optimistic) performance gain?

shmerl5• 8 years ago

Personally, because my CPU has a hardware bug[1], which is now worked around by disabling package C6 state, and I already went through RMA for the segfault bug, so I'd rather now get a newer CPU to begin with.

[1] https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196683

Aardwolf• 8 years ago

It also comes with a clear fan, for better RGB light illumination than its predecessor which only had an RGB ring.

How did the RGB naming trend get started?

Rgb leds and colorful illuminated gaming pc's both already existed for decades. But only recently I saw the name RGB pop up in motherboards, keyboards, etc... as if it's something new

drakenot• 8 years ago

I recently built a new PC so I had to wade into this space again. The main difference I believe is that many components themselves now have their own LED lighting.

Before, it was primarily LED fans or light strips. Now, motherboards have their own LED line traces. Ram has it's own LED lights. There is also support to control the colors of these components from software.

monochromatic3• 8 years ago

It’s also essentially impossible right now to buy a motherboard that isn’t tarted up with a bunch of stupid LED nonsense. (Unless you buy something low-end or server-grade.)

krylon3• 8 years ago

I just wish the lighting told me something useful. If the CPU fan changed color to indicate temperature or CPU load, that would be really cool. Likewise, if RAM lighting indicated the rate of data transfer.

That would be pretty awesome. But all this fluff just to make PC more pretty seems pointless to somehow.

(Don't get me wrong, if you like that sort of thing, by all means, enjoy it. My sister's boyfriend has a gaming PC with a big glass window in the case so one can see all the pretty lights quietly shifting around. It is pretty, and I bet it's boatloads of fun to look at when tripping.)

jannes• 8 years ago

That naming has been used for a few years already. I'm not sure how it started.

For example, this Linus Tech Tips video about the first RGB backlit mechanical keyboard from 4 years ago uses the term:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-GjMH8kQlc

kmfrk• 8 years ago

I think a part of it is the Instagram/Twitch mentality where publicly performing or sharing something plays into things now.

Easier to take photos of your computer and share them if they look like a cryogenic chamber. :)

In addition, a lot of companies are going "full stack" for computers, and a system-wide RGB integration/syncing for Company X's components (RAM, motherboard, graphics card, case, fan controller, fans, mouse, keyboard, mousemat(!)) is a simple way to lock in customers.

EDIT: You could also argue that we're at an inflection point where videogames and tech nerdiness are normalized to the point where computer cases, like TVs once were, are now considered furniture and not some heinous eyesore you're forced to have around.

blackoil• 8 years ago

My hypothesis is, most assembling is now done by young gamers, as majority other users have migrated to laptop/tablet. So flashing PCs is now major chunk of the market.

marzipan• 8 years ago

It's become conventional to use it to refer to a light with customizable RGB parameters, versus a single color. For example both my desktop keyboard and mouse are "RGB" and they have various color modes and even animation settings.

IronWolve• 8 years ago

Beating an 8700K and 7820x, not bad at all. Nice to see AMD giving Intel some competition again. Hopefully this leads intel to drop prices,

Carioca• 8 years ago

The 8700K's main draw over the Ryzens is single-core performance though.

dragontamer4• 8 years ago

True, but it looks like these 2700X will come out under the 8700K's price point.

So if a Ryzen7 2700X has better multithreaded (aka: compile times, blender rendering, etc. etc.) speeds than something spec'd ~$50 to ~$100 more than it, that's a winner by any stretch of the imagination.

Single-core performance is most important in Javascript and Video Games. But most production tasks these days are multithreaded.

locusm• 8 years ago

Admittedly niche, but my main draw for the 8700K was Hackintosh compatibility.

flyinghamster• 8 years ago

Nice incremental update, but since I already have a Ryzen 7 1700 on an Asrock X370 Taichi and it's been wonderful, I'll take a pass. If I hadn't already upgraded from my FX-6100, though, it would be worth looking into this one. As it stands, already having the 1700, I'd move up to a Threadripper if I could afford to upgrade, since a new motherboard would be needed anyway.

RussianCow• 8 years ago

since a new motherboard would be needed anyway.

Minor correction: The Ryzen 2000 series uses the same socket, so you can use the same motherboard, although AMD claims that the newer X470 chipset will give you better performance. Either way, I agree with your assessment: It doesn't seem worth it to upgrade if you already have a Ryzen 7.

dogma1138• 8 years ago

The x470 and 370 chipsets are identical it’s a rebrand. They changed some of the power delivery requirements to match the higher TDP of some of CPUs and apparently not all previously made boards were upto snuff or at least that is the party line.

tracker1• 8 years ago

Running an i7-4790K here, and still torn on upgrading, would like the extra threads and going more than 32gb ram, but not sure it's worth it or not still.

Retric• 8 years ago

Looks good. I am going to wait to see Intel's response, but this may finally be worth upgrading from an overclocked 2600k mostly used for gaming.

baybal2• 8 years ago

I wish AMD will make newer generations of their desktop CPUs chipsetless just as their motherboard cores. For Intel, going for a separate chipset is a requirement dictated by their design process and big die sizes, for AMD, it is just a way to make an additional $10-$20 per CPU sale.

Chipsetless setup should allow for smaller motherboards with better POL setup.

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