JavaScript really is overtaking the world

https://medium.com/fed-or-dead/javascript-really-is-overtaking-the-world-5b59b5af41ed

by okket • 9 years ago

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maxxxxx• 9 years ago

"A builder of scalable, inclusive, and performant UI’s"

What's an inclusive UI?

lprubin• 9 years ago

Maybe a UI that works for all types of browsers, devices, internet speeds, as well as handling accessibility tools such as screen readers?

draw_down• 9 years ago

If liking JavaScript makes me a hipster then give me the skinny jeans!

Also, I'd just like to say it's fun to see people shitting on JS when otherwise they're all about "nothing is bad or good, everything is a tradeoff, right tool for the job". I realize the author is making a separate point about JS consuming all of frontend, but you can just smell the contempt dripping off the tweets he includes.

probablybanned• 9 years ago

Engineering is fundamentally about tradeoffs because you have multiple objectives (e.g. high performance and loose coupling) and it's not possible to be optimal in all of them simultaneously. However, it is easily possible for a poor design to be way, way off the Pareto frontier and not particularly good at anything. So everything is a tradeoff, but things can still be bad or good.

That's not even meant to be a comment one way or the other on Javascript, although I will not voluntarily adopt node.js for server side application development.

BoiledCabbage• 9 years ago

Good analogy, Pareto frontier is a great way to describe it - and a perspective I had never thought of.

AngeloAnolin• 9 years ago

Internet is taking the world....

Web is taking the world...

Mobile is taking the world...

Regardless of the technology platform, there's a decent chance that anything connected digitally has some JS in it.

haburka• 9 years ago

I disagree with the statement that a framework like react is something that's easy to pick up. It's true that having solid fundamentals will help you learn it faster, but this alone will not make up for the complexity that a framework brings. Perhaps because the author uses react every day that they think it's easy, but it would take months to understand how to use it at its best. Additionally, if a react shop is hiring a new front end developer, it makes sense for them to hire a react developer. A developer with little experience in the framework will not be able to provide insights on how to make development easier for the team.

pascalxus• 9 years ago

I find that alot of times, developers want to use Libraries as a crutch for lack of knowledge in javascript, jquery, HTML and CSS. So they end up doing hacky things and using heavy weight libraries and plugins for things that only require a few extra lines of code. Furthermore, many developers are weighing the merits of their libraries based on how cool and recent they are, rather than it's capabilities - this is exacerbated by their lack of knowledge of JS/jQuery because they don't realize how easy it would be to do it in basic JS/jquery.

Danihan• 9 years ago

JavaScript really is overtaking ~the world~ front-end development. Sure, welcome to 1998.

lewisj489• 9 years ago

Front end development is not easy

While this is true, it's definitely not hard at all. I was a C++ dev for 6 years at the same company working on IOT devices, and it became extremely stressful. I now have a job (for 2 years) working as a front-end developer and my life has become so much easier. You can learn most frameworks in a working day.

k__2• 9 years ago

Yes, compared to a Qt or Xamarin, I guess React or Angular is a walk in the park, hehe ;)

k__2• 9 years ago

Well, it has some nice properties which make it really flexible.

Also, it's not owned by a company, which makes it more accessible.

Many people told me not to learn JavaScript or before that PHP, because most dev knows them, how should I get a job when the marked is flooded. But in my experience it was always more demand than expected.

Also, most customers I talk to don't search for JS developer or a Java developer.

They want somebody who can implement their idea and don't care how I do it. JavaScript allows me to do many things. I can do front-ends for web or apps, I can do desktop apps, I can do APIs, even for low-level stuff like MQTT etc.

And when they ask how I do it and I say "well, with JavaScript" they are often happy, because they know many devs know it and it lowers the bus-factor a bit.

JavaScript really is overtaking the world

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