WikiLeaks Put Women in Turkey in Danger

This is a pointless, content-free comment. The author makes specific allegations which can easily be checked and discussed on their own merits. None of them have anything to do with Hillary Clinton.

The allegations should not even be surprising since Wikileaks does not make a habit of scrubbing or even reviewing in detail the documents they post. That's not really their role, in their minds--they see themselves as a platform or conduit, not editors.

exstudent24• 10 years ago

This article doesn't make it clear what was actually leaked. Was it the actual private info or links to it? Was this info already publicly available? Honestly this article seems like retaliation for the earlier DNC leak and is heavy on accusations, light on facts.

foobarqux• 10 years ago

The article is incoherent because it originally accused Wikileaks of publishing the documents but was then corrected to state that Wikileaks only linked to documents published by third parties.

skybrian2• 10 years ago

Anyone who has been paying attention knows that WikiLeaks has always been careless about sharing private information that puts ordinary people at risk. The only time they've been somewhat responsible is when they partnered with newspapers who know better.

The DNC leak for example includes lots of social security numbers and credit card numbers. If they cared at all they could have done a search and replace to get most of them.

exstudent24• 10 years ago

I would rather they didn't manipulate or censor their leaks. I'm sure I'm not alone in that.

davidf18• 10 years ago

The DNC leak for example includes lots of social security numbers and credit card numbers.

Someone should teach people that you don't put SSN, CC, and other information in emails.

Also, best not to put in emails things that you'd later not like made public (like getting angry at people and writing things you'd regret).

I believe people got fired for what they said in the Sony hacks.

randomname2• 10 years ago

Wikileaks statement:

"@Sulliview @TheWorldPost Please issue a correction. The story is a fabrication. WikiLeaks did not publish the databases concerned"

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/757940726198042624

norea-armozel• 10 years ago

The attachments have excel files which are effectively databases since they contain the addresses and phone numbers of private citizens (i.e. not members of the Turkish govt).

leephillips3• 10 years ago

Wikileaks is also smearing the author, calling her an Erdogan apologist who is working from Turkey. In fact, she is affiliated with Harvard and the University of North Carolina and is an Andrew Carnegie Fellow, and certainly doesn't seem to be an Erdogan apologist. Wikileaks also blocked the author on Twitter, where they continue to defame her.

dublinben• 10 years ago

To see the corrections made to the article to reflect this information, see the following link.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160726000303/https://trln7wscq...

divbit• 10 years ago

{+This blog has been updated to reflect that WikiLeaks promoted links to the+} {+databases via its social media accounts but did not host those databases on its+} {+own site.+}

So they tweeted / or retweeted it essentially?

moogle19• 10 years ago

"WikiLeaks should take down its links to all personal information as soon as possible." Do they now how the Internet works?

alexandercrohde• 10 years ago

Sounds like an accidental oversight, but one I'll gladly accept for the preservation of free-distribution of information; a force that's essential to democracy.

Much in the same way that a well-meaning country have police officers that shoot innocent people, or engage in bad wars, but that misstep doesn't invalidate the whole.

yorwba• 10 years ago

a special database of almost all adult women in Turkey.

Now I'm wondering who put this together and why.

russelluresti• 10 years ago

Yeah, this was my first thought. Things that aren't addressed in the article: why did this database exist and was it even legal for the government to collect and store this information?

moyix• 10 years ago

There is a lot of confusion surrounding this, which I can hopefully clarify. Wikileaks released a dump of email obtained from a hack of the Turkish ruling party (AKP), which can be found on their main page.

It turned out that the source of these documents was Phineas Fisher (@GammaGroupPR on twitter), the hacker who previously released documents on FinFisher, Hacking Team, and a few others. Due to some miscommunication with WikiLeaks, he was actually still in the AKP network when the WL release happened:

I hacked AKP (the ruling party in Turkey) because I support the society people
are trying to build in Rojava and Bakur [1], and they're being attacked by
Turkey [2][3][4]. I don't see leaking as an end in itself, so I was talking with
people in Rojava and Bakur to see how best to use the access I'd gotten. There
was a miscommunication between some of them and someone gave a copy of the first
file I'd downloaded (which had about half of @akparti.org.tr's email up to that
point) to wikileaks. They quickly corrected the miscommunication and asked
wikileaks to hold off on publishing it, but wikileaks decided to publish now
anyway with the international attention from the recent coup attempt. To be fair
to wikileaks, they didn't know I was still in AKP's network downloading files at
the time they announced they were publishing [5], but they did know that the
source who had given them the file was asking them to wait...

I am not certain whether the voter database Zeynep Tufekci described is contained in the WikiLeaks dump (e.g. as an attachment). It is definitely contained in the larger AKP dump released by Phineas Fisher.

Here's a writeup on what is contained in the full AKP dump, which confirms the claims made by the Huffington Post article. I have done some light checking against my own copy of the dump and verified that what they say seems to be correct.

https://medium.com/@crymora/when-leaking-turns-into-dumping-...

Note: I am deliberately not linking directly to the source documents, because I agree that their full and unredacted release was dangerous. You can no doubt find them if you search around, but I'd urge you to think about the possible repercussions carefully before propagating it.

WikiLeaks Put Women in Turkey in Danger

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