How to ask for reviews without feeling icky about it

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by coloneltcb • 10 years ago

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tomjen3• 10 years ago

When I see the what's new screen I always visually scan for the dismiss button, which has now been changed to no thanks. I don't want to see a what's new menu, I don't want it longer, I want to open the app do what it was I came for and get on with whatever I was doing.

hmate92• 10 years ago

True, but that reading 4 bullet points takes ~5 seconds and you might have a new feature which really helps you and you might miss it otherwise.

panic2• 10 years ago

If you use an app infrequently enough that it updates between each use, you'll see an alert every time you open the app! 5 seconds isn't that much, but many 5-second inconveniences add up. Plus, if you have to read a bunch of text to understand the features of your app, most people are going to miss the features anyway.

kerkeslager2• 10 years ago

You're appealing to "Fear of Missing Something Important (FOMSI)" from an article that was posted to HN a few days ago[1].

Yes, there's a very small chance that I might miss a feature that I care about. However, there's a 100% chance that if I read your popup, I'm not spending that time doing something else that I know I want to do because I consciously chose to do it.

And let's not pretend that it's just 5 seconds this one time. Website and app behaviors like this eat up 5 seconds load time on a slow phone, 5 seconds to read, 30 seconds to remember what you were doing before your attention was hijacked, 3 minutes and $10 to add data to your phone plan because you used up all your data, over and over and over again. Because lots of sites do this, and that time and loss of attention adds up.

So frankly, I don't care about your ad for your new feature (and let's be clear, it is an ad). I'd rather have the 5 seconds and other things you're taking from me with that What's New section, and if you do this kind of thing consistently, I'll go elsewhere.

[1] https://medium.com/@tristanharris/how-technology-hijacks-peo...

gingerlime• 10 years ago

Interesting to read all the complaints about these types of popups. I also dislike those. But what's clear from this post is that most people are actually happy about them or at least that they don't result in lots of negative reviews but rather lots of positive ones.

I love it when an a/b test or some other type of experiment blows in the face of our personal bias.

panic2• 10 years ago

Lots of positive reviews doesn't necessarily mean most people are happy. It could be that the unhappy people don't click the "leave a review" button, or that they're slightly unhappy but not enough to leave a review. If you think about it, it's actually quite hard to tell for sure whether something makes people happy or not.

decwakeboarder• 10 years ago

It catches the customer at a good time because we just gave them something new.

Now ask for a review after a crash. This is just asking "we introduced new stuff, you like the idea?" when really progress comes from asking "you've now been using X that we introduced Y ago, how's it working for you?"

siddharthdeswal4• 10 years ago

For the products that are regularly used by me or my team, I love reading about new features. In fact I've subscribed to the product update emails of our most important software.

This because often, new features means increased efficiency or new capabilities for the team and I. And I love it when that happens.

If they've developed a feature that I wanted for sometime or solves a current problem, I'm almost certain to rate them highly.

xirdstl• 10 years ago

These review/rating popups really annoy me, though the mechanism they're using in this post might not be as bad.

Can you imagine if websites nagged you in this same way? Why do we think it's an acceptable user experience to nag in apps?

karmelapple• 10 years ago

We don't, but it translates into serious increases in downloads if done right. It's pretty hard to ignore, though I don't do that in my current apps.

One area where this can be addressed is at the App Store level; change the incentives so writings reviews aren't so important. If the OS is collecting how much people use an app, for instance, why not more highly rank apps in the App Store that demonstrate consistently high use?

elevensies• 10 years ago

I also hate modal dialogs on general principals. If I'm focused on a task, I will immediately dismiss the dialog without even trying to interpret the meaning.

I'd like to see apps try to implement this kind of message within the normal UI without forcing the immediate priority over my own needs.

javman• 10 years ago

It would be nice if this was an OS feature instead of implemented differently by every app developer. That way it could also be disabled system-wide with a single setting. The OS could either show a nice dialog on update as shown in the article, or show it after the user has launched the app a certain number of times. Rating good apps that people use frequently is a benefit to all users.

mikeash3• 10 years ago

The best way to ask for reviews is to use my Review Buddy service:

https://mikeash.com/review_buddy.html

All you have to do is enter your app's bundle identifier, and then my system takes care of prompting the user for reviews at appropriate times. It's totally free and you don't even have to integrate an SDK, it's completely automatic.

amjd• 10 years ago

Hi, can you briefly explain how this works? I didn't find any explanation on the website.

mikeash3• 10 years ago

It's a placebo. It's never appropriate to prompt your users for a review, so it can accomplish its task of asking users when appropriate without doing anything at all.

chris_7• 10 years ago

When an app asks for a review, I typically go and leave a one star review.

charlesdm• 10 years ago

That's ridiculous, given 99.95% of users will never leave a review unless prompted. That's like saying: I love your product, but if you DARE ask me to leave a review, I'm going to be a hater. That makes absolutely no sense to me.

mikeash3• 10 years ago

If an app interrupts my workflow for no benefit, that is a legitimate negative point against it. If it does this repeatedly (many apps nag a lot) then that can substantially impact its usability.

coralreef• 10 years ago

I pee on the floor whenever I go to a public bathroom.

tonyedgecombe• 10 years ago

Me too, I don't like being interrupted for no good reason, I do the same to Ebay sellers who pester for feedback.

How to ask for reviews without feeling icky about it

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