Ensuring that the web is for everyone

https://blog.cloudflare.com/ensuring-that-the-web-is-for-everyone/

by jgrahamc • 11 years ago

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Pigo• 11 years ago

..on a new Mac

really?

Killswitch• 11 years ago

Most SV people are running Mac.

sp332• 11 years ago

I was surprised when I realized this too, but it's true. e.g. PyCon Taiwan http://yyc.solvcon.net/writing/2013/after_pycontw_2013/ jQuery Conference http://blogs.splunk.com/2013/09/25/splunking-jquery-conferen...

ChrisArchitect• 11 years ago

couldn't help but look at that pic of the Berners-Lee Mosaic and think...this is for everyone, unless you're in places like...India...Eastern China...Australia..actually all of Asia-Pac...haha. ;-) ;-)

chestnut-tree• 11 years ago

Here is that moment from the Olympic ceremony

https://youtu.be/4As0e4de-rI?t=1h17m25s

ohitsdom• 11 years ago

Is this in response to something?

jgrahamc2• 11 years ago

Not to anything public. This is just an internal email I sent out to the team to make sure they think about this. You read an older email I sent out here: https://blog.cloudflare.com/courage-to-change-things/

eastdakota• 11 years ago

Good reminder generally, but on our mind specifically as we think through browser makers' plans to deprecate SHA1 for HTTPS connections. We'll post more on that topic soon.

TorKlingberg• 11 years ago

Nice, but what does this mean for CloudFlare specifically? It's usually not CF but their customers who make websites that are heavy to download or render.

Is it things like continue to support HTTP 1.0/1.1 and older ciphers when required?

Mz• 11 years ago

Not what I was expecting based on the title. But it is an important principle that should be more widely followed. Good on them.

X-Istence• 11 years ago

Would it be possible to make options available to customers to select what type of compatibility they would like to strive for?

What if I am okay with not supporting Android 2.x which doesn't ciphersuite Y?

dredmorbius• 11 years ago

As I've found with Cloudflare-backed sites: Tor and non-JavaScript tools equals no access.

This includes both console-mode browsers and shell-based tools such as curl or wget.

lcswi• 11 years ago

Good. Please stop serving captchas to every tor user then.

jgrahamc2• 11 years ago

We are working to fix that. It's not trivial because there are many bad Tor users and we don't want to just 'whitelist' Tor otherwise it'll make Tor more attractive for bad folks.

nfoz• 11 years ago

Then it's not "for everyone", is it?

logn• 11 years ago

"Supporting everyone means that all CloudFlare sites are accessible to everyone who uses the web"

Your goal is to support everyone from a technological perspective but also profile everyone to block anyone AI deems "bad". Somehow I don't think the creators of the web envisioned a single corporation acting as a gatekeeper and judge of moral character on such a pervasive scale in this way.

wastedbrains• 11 years ago

I find this surprising seeing as cloudflare blocked me on shared wifi while traveling internationally from accessing many sites, claiming it was to prevent email spam. They were blocking more sites than over zealous hotel and government internets. When I started a thread about how they were blocking from a significant percentage of hotel and coffeeshop wifi's in various countries their response was find other wifi. Really seems like you need to turn down the filtering.

Ensuring that the web is for everyone

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