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Have fun.

(I'm sure if I pick any specific quotes, you'll start arguing the semantics of what is "zealous", how whatever number of comments I pick are outliers, or not proof enough, etc. So, here's one query, of many, that you can pick through.)

In the end, I really could not care less if you agree with the characterization or not. But your enthusiastic defense is fun. If you keep going, you'll be coming close to being an example yourself!

It's supposed to be available in plaintext to the end customer (government), at their secured archive, but not available in plaintext to TeleMessage.

TeleMessage lies about this in their marketing material, claiming that TM SGNL supports "End-to-End encryption from the mobile phone through to the corporate archive."

Surely someone of your expertise and renown recognizes this difference.

My point, where is the proof of that "religious element" beyond memes? Is it in the article? Is it in the links? Where can we see this religious fervor in action?

You can argue with fossuser about the validity of what they said.

I'll offer my opinion, which is not some proof from god or anything that you seem to be seeking, which is that I find significantly more annoying comments from Rust users, about how something should be rewritten in Rust to fix everything, than any other language. But, again, this is not proof from god. I'm just a guy making an observation based on my lived experience. You have a different lived experience. Glad we could clear that up.

Ok. Where is the proselytizing taking place in the article?

It's not? It's like you're picking random words out of my comment to quote without bothering to read what I'm writing. Nothing of what I said is about the article. It's about your misinterpretation of what fossuser meant when they said "religious element".

I can't explain the same thing for a third (fourth, I guess? since I just tried again) time, I'm running out of different ways to say it. So I'll just leave it there.

Your meta-commentary on memes is neat and all, but again, somehow, completely misses the point I was making.

I think I'm on (relatively) the same page as you regarding inappropriately anthropomorphizing LLMs, but aren't both "confabulation" and "hallucination" typically/historically cognitive science terms dealing with humans? So, they both would be anthropomorphizing? And if so, why is one better than the other?

"Confabulation was originally defined as "the emergence of memories of events and experiences which never took place" - From the year 1900

Ok, but between me, GP and the article, who said that? Where are the Rabid RIIR fans?

The person you replied to said: "The religious element of rust programmers seems more extreme than other languages."

You interpreted that in a way that ended up with you asking "What is religious about rewriting tools in Rust".

I clarified that the typical way "religious element of rust programmers" is interpreted is not the act of rewriting tools, but the proselytizing about rust on message boards. I then gave an example of what that proselytizing typically looks like (which was not a claim that you said something like that).

That is the "religious element" being referred to. The proselytizing is the religious element, not the act of rewriting tools in Rust.

(The meme "Rust Evangelists" didn't manifest out of thin air because people hate memory safety or whatever -- it's because people are really, really passionate about Rust, and are vocal about that passion)

What is religious about rewriting tools in Rust?

"Religious" isn't being used to refer to people rewriting tools in Rust.

It's used to refer to people zealously commenting on message boards that every single tool ever built should be rewritten in Rust, and if you aren't rewriting your tool in Rust, you're an idiot.

much higher quality and consistency than artisans.

Consistency, sure.

Higher quality...? I'll take my artisan bread over Wonder bread, my hand-crafted table over Ikea, etc.

I'm still searching for successful vibe coding examples.

I'm wondering what this means.

Kind of by definition, you wouldn't be able to tell "successful vibe coding" from "successful coding", right? Unless someone announces it. And a quick look at the comments here, or any other thread with about AI & coding, would immediately tell you is a bad idea to announce.

There's a few things you just don't say on HN, because you'll be piled-on immediately: don't criticize Kagi, don't hint at being pro-cryptocurrency, don't announce you "vibe coded" something even if it's extremely successful, etc.

(The immediate downvotes on this is actually hilarious, and proves the point)

I didn't get that out of the comment at all, so I appreciate the clarification. Put that way, it makes significantly more sense.

The question was "what is the best way to market yourself?" and your recommendation is to keep quiet and do less marketing.

If that has worked for you, that's amazing! But it seems really counter-intuitive to me.

Minimum wage is barely (in many cases not even barely) enough to live on. Raising minimum wage is a herculean task that rarely succeeds. Federal minimum wage hasn't been raised in 16 years. But we'll have not only a livable UBI in 20 years, but one that's enough to "retire to a life of leisure"?

Doubt.

With what money? My kids aren't going to have enough money to retire to leisure in 20 years.

What an awesome resource, thanks for sharing that link.

I'm not really familiar with audio stuff, but holy do I ever appreciate the write-ups you've done. This is absolutely fascinating stuff. I'm eager to keep reading. The video from Mick Gordon was awesome, too.

Congratulations on the launch, and best of luck!

i think i’ve written enough to show that’s that last thing im trying to do.

I mean, that may be your intent, but so far you've brought up Brazil and Obama in a conversation about Trump ignoring the courts orders and said nothing about Trump ignoring the orders.

Obama dropped a bomb on a us citizen without giving him due process

american presidents causing untold misery on some people is a tale as old as time

This is continued whataboutism, which I'm simply not interested in participating in a conversation with.

The point is to create a system that is, on balance, just.

Sure! Why not start now. I'll be eagerly watching, and hoping, that you guys figure it out.

I've always found this viewpoint a bit childish,

It's childish to view fines as a percent of revenue rather than an absolute number...? That's certainly an odd take.

Fines are meant to be a deterrent. If you fine Microsoft $50,000 they will literally not notice. If you fine my locally owned convenience store $50,000 they will probably be forced to close. It's absurd to ignore that.

I understand people want businesses they don't like to simply not exist anymore

I did not say this, or anything close to it.

My entire point was that looking at a number in a vacuum and saying "that's massive" or "that's not that big" is silly. What's "massive" to some companies is a tiny blip on the radar of other companies.

I cannot understand anyone who thinks looking at fines in context is "childish".

Not looking at fines in context is something only the largest and richest of companies would be a proponent for, because it would make the fines absolutely meaningless for them while being effective against anyone smaller.

would you prefer what’s happening in brazil?

I prefer not to do what aboutism.

what kind of powers do you envision the judiciary having to rectify these wrongs?

Isn't that supposed to be figured out already? What is "checks and balances" if they can just be ignored? Impeachment for ignoring supreme court orders would be one example.

Notably, those rulings have been ignored so far.

Hasn't Trump already ignored orders from the supreme court regarding Kilmar Abrego Garcia?

"Judge scorches Trump admin for stonewalling in Abrego Garcia deportation case" is just one recent headline.

From my outside perspective, your checks and balances do not appear to be working. If they do work, I can't help but wonder what is taking so long.

I feel like it's much more reasonable to blame the companies & people that are making it a necessity to have some sort of protection like Anubis for ruining the web (over-aggressive scrapers, bot farms, etc.), rather than blaming Anubis.

When viewed as a percent of their annual revenue, rather than an absolute number, it's not really all that massive. It's like 3% or so.

And you can't really just look at the 3%, you have to factor in what benefits (money, political sway, whatever) they received in exchange for the data. For simplicity, if they got paid, I don't know, $150M/yr from China for the data and they've been sending data for (at least) 4 years... They would have made a profit despite the fine!

($150M is obviously pulled out of my ass, just as a demonstration of how when you look at the fines from a bigger context, it might just be a line item on the expense report that's worth taking the risk on)

No.

This is also covered in their original blog (linked from this post in the first paragraph).

"As for how equity is determined, it really deserves its own in-depth treatment, but in short, equity compensates for risk – and in a startup, risk reduces over time: the first employee takes much more risk than the hundredth."

In short, they pay everyone the same as they pay themselves.

"We decided to do something outlandishly simple: take the salary that Steve, Jess, and I were going to pay ourselves, and pay that to everyone. The three of us live in the San Francisco Bay Area, and Steve and I each have three kids; we knew that the dollar figure that would allow us to live without financial distress – which we put at $175,000 a year – would be at least universally adequate for the team we wanted to build. And we mean everyone literally: as of this writing we have 23 employees, and that’s what we all make."

Later update:

"Since originally writing this blog entry in 2021, we have increased our salary a few times, and it now stands at $207,264. We have also added some sales positions that have variable compensation, consisting of a lower base salary and a commission component."

Interesting!

When I was much younger, I worked for a couple companies that had (what I would consider) large fleets of vehicles, and they all were insured through an insurance company. I guess I just assumed that's how it was. I wasn't aware self-insuring was a possibility. Thanks.

I'm not super familiar with this space, or laws where Waymo is active, what do you mean Google/Waymo don't buy insurance for their vehicles?

Is having insurance not legally required? Do they just pay out when there's an accident where they injure someone?

If your stats aren't from "trust me" or an LLM, can you please just post where you are getting your market share stats from?

My claim that statistically zero (cloud provider) customers are using valkey should, I sincerely hope, be self-evident.

I have no idea what the actual stats are. But no, I don't find your "statistically 0%" to be self-evident, especially in light of the other comments and links in this thread, and what I've heard elsewhere.

I was hoping, since you presented it so confidently, that you had something more than "trust me". In another comment you say you have evidence of marketshare, maybe you could post that?

and statistically zero customers are using them

You've said this twice now, but not provided any data or even a hand-wave to a possible source so that others could go get the data and look at it.

If it's statistically something, where are the stats?