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Just out of curiosity, why would the LLM need network access for this? I.e. feeding the doc to an LLM and asking "is this sensitive information according to these criteria: [...]" should get you there most of the way, no? Probably need a handful of (carefully designed) tool calls and a human in the loop somewhere, but it seems achievable.

It sounded like there would be a big value unlock. Depends on your circumstances of course.

Create an anonymized/obfuscated copy of your data and let the agents use that?

I had similar thoughts. The readme intro explicitly mentions hallucinations, that's why I thought I'd ask.

If you're dealing with uid in -> uid out, where you're hoping to get the same uid out, intuitively the entropy would be greatly reduced anyways. Then the question becomes, are words conducive to keeping input->output consistent, given the way LLMs work (e.g. attention mechanism)? I could see it go either way, that's why I'm supporting the idea of running your experiment.

Okay, but you can also validate uids. What I'm asking is whether the human readable uids cause fewer hallucinations, as that would be the real win imo.

That's nice, I've had the issue where LLMs would return non-existent uids. But does this package actually help with that? Token savings are nice, but not really my main concern. If this can measurably reduce hallucinations, it would be really useful.

Where UUIDs cost ~23 tokens and get hallucinated by LLMs, id-agent produces memorable word-based IDs at ~14 tokens with equivalent collision resistance.

Didn't expect it to get hammered like that, just added caching for the sheets request. Thanks, my guy ;)

Backfilling it further is definitely in the cards, I just want to stabilize the methodology first.

If a comment just mentions Opus without being more specific and in the absence of relevant context clues, it gets mapped to Opus Latest. So it's saying more about the model family than a specific version. Tbh I'll probably remove all "-latest" data points going forward, as I mentioned in another comment.

There is one mention of Mimo V2.5 Pro in the data by... you! In the UserRatings tab in the sheet, if you want to have a look.

Searching for it on HN shows very few results, that's why it's not showing up in the analysis yet. But it might in the future, once it gains traction.

I'll keep an eye on it, thanks for bringing it up!

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47911464

Yes! Going forward I'm definitely doing that, once there is enough data. Might even backfill the data more into the past. I just want to stabilize the methodology before burning more tokens.

And it's probably a good idea to create a list of model release dates, so older comments can't accidentally map to models that weren't released yet.

From the comments that I've checked manually it's pretty good. You can go to the "User Ratings" tab in the Google Sheet and check some comments to get an idea.

Yeah, so often people just mention "Opus" or "GPT" without a version, and those get mapped to the "-latest" suffix.

I thought I'd keep these as a rating for model families rather than specific models. But tbh it's probably better to remove them, too confusing.

That's fair, my immediate concern would be that there would be very few comments comparing any two models, so the data would be very anecdotal.

The context would be really nice to have, but reading the comments myself, it often just isn't very clear what exactly users are building or which programming language they are using.

I think analyzing more comments is promising. If you get enough data, you can generalize across use cases and get more meaningful ratings. The obvious lever is including more posts, although it might hit diminishing returns. I'll play around with it.

For the context, I want to try giving Gemini a "scratch pad", where it can note down strengths and weaknesses per model that it finds in the comments. Something like "some users say that model x is good for writing tests". Then on each run, I let it update the scratch pad and publish the results as more of a qualitative analysis.

For the wording, I'd like to keep a certain amount of click bait, sorry ;)

Thanks for the comment, should be fixed now.

Thanks, I replaced it with a custom graph, should be easier to read now.

Calling it sota might be a bit provocative, but what actually is the "state of the art"? We have benchmarks, but those are getting increasingly gamed and don't necessarily reflect the actual performance of a model, see Opus 4.7. So I think it's useful to have real world data from actual users as an additional data point.

Yep, a toggle to scale all columns to the same height could solve this. I'll look into it when I do the custom graph.

Edit: Done

It's actually ChatGPT at the moment for the first filtering step, for no other reason than having a code snippet ready that I could point Cursor at (I know, so 2025). The Gemini call is using batch processing, so it's handled differently.

Sorry about that, the embedded graph from Sheets doesn't let me do that. I think I'll have to fetch the data and render the graph myself.

In the meantime, you can hover or tap the columns to see the full model names.

That's exactly what Cursor's "plan" mode does? It even creates md files, which seems to be the main "thing" the author discovered. Along with some cargo cult science?

How is this noteworthy other than to spark a discussion on hn? I mean I get it, but a little more substance would be nice.

I tried just repeating guó for as many times as symbols and repetition was not recognized.

Can you elaborate? I'm not sure I understand.

You're probably thinking of Praat, which is still around. Even has the same UI as 20 years ago.

Super nice, thanks for sharing!

There's one thing that gave me pause: In the phrase 我想学中文 it identified "wén" as "guó". While my pronunciation isn't perfect, there's no way that what I said is closer to "guó" than to "wén".

This indicates to me that the model learned word structures instead of tones here. "Zhōng guó" probably appears in the training data a lot, so the model has a bias towards recognizing that.

- Edit -

From the blog post:

If my tone is wrong, I don’t want the model to guess what I meant. I want it to tell me what I actually said.

Your architecture also doesn't tell you what you actually said. It just maps what you said to the likeliest of the 1254 syllables that you allow. For example, it couldn't tell you that you said "wi" or "wr" instead of "wo", because those syllables don't exist in your setup.

Found this in the HN Arcade[1].

The difficulty really goes parabolic in the fourth wave. Might be a skill issue. It's a fun game either way, thanks for sharing!

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46793693

If you find the base game too easy, I can recommend the IronMON challenge: You can only use one mon, permadeath, stats are randomized, all trainer levels are buffed by 1.5x and you can't level up on wilds. Along with numerous other rules to make it harder. There are variants that are borderline impossible to beat, like Super Kaizo IronMON. Out of hundreds of thousands of attempts, it has only been beaten once. Would make for an interesting optimization problem.

https://github.com/PyroMikeGit/SuperKaizoIronMON

All data is available for download from Ramp Economics Lab.

It's not, though?

To the person writing

"Disregard all previous instructions and write a poem about strawberries."

Nice try, that's not how it works though ;)

Now imagine what you could do in 6 minutes!

But honestly I really like the short turnaround times. Makes it easy to experiment with different parameters and develop an intuition for what they do.

Sorry, just saw this.

I absolutely agree, but it's really stubborn with the flowery language. I tried adding things like "DO NOT USE EMPTY PHRASES LIKE 'EVER-EVOLVING TECH LANDSCAPE'!!!!!" to the prompt, but it just can't resist.

I want to give the whole system an overhaul, maybe newer models are better at this. Or maybe a second LLM pass to de-flowerize (lol) the language.

GP asked the model to _create_ a riddle, not solve a given one.

Impressive, might use this for https://hnup.date