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Well, considering you are telling the truth:

a) you never trained your IQ using methods designed to increase IQ, meaning your self-assessed avg IQ would increase significantly within 150 hours of IQ practice

b) 1 cigarette is irrelevant, which makes c) irrelevant in context.

d) It's common to feel smarter than the rest. Especially if you surround yourself with people who tend to keep their intelligence back for the sake of recreation and fun OR they never really tried for reasons.

Chess is cool, ELO 1350 - 1450 after 3 years of regular playing is also cool and shows that chess is something where you actually are trying, pointing at the fact that your self-confidence issues are merely the result of lack of practice aka consistent increases of mastery in subjects you care for (or want to care for).

Bottom line: You (most likely, > 0.97) did not lose any IQ points due to smoking. :D

Isn't this dictated by your available free time?

Or project-based? If you are a writer, for example, it's usually project based.

Otherwise, if you really have a hard time setting boundaries, then you might be the type to orient yourself around the states of your social circles. They definitely have boundaries when they stop listening or caring.

If you can't say enough is enough yourself, let someone you trust, or in whose competence you trust, do it for you.

I would say something like "when does it stop being useful" but the 'real' infinite game is all about curiosity and there's almost no players, just uninterested and destructive shareholders, so I'm gonna go with "do you have a thread that connects it all or not?" If you don't, and it only leads to more and more excursions, fix that point of depth where some subject still interfaces with the other stuff and stop there.

This is a "wild" hypothesis. A scifi WIP.

The desires of certain character types culminate in leadership. Those with this character type who have actual visions that fit withing the symbiotic nature of our reality were about as wanted among their peers as alphas were wanted in human tribes where betas felt treated unfairly and thus ganged up on alphas and their offspring, then establishing fraudulent hierarchies alienated from individual competence, which was compensated by collectively established complexity that served to maintain and uphold the fraudulent hierarchies.

Over time, in IT, engineering and science, this lead to narrower and narrower fields of possibilities, aka probabilities that certain behavioral locks and refused directions and angles will be unlocked (after emerging).

Business psychology, marketing, sales, and culture and psychology are entangled and "envelop" instead of developing. It appears like an evolution but it's an alienation, a contiguous/continuous self-imposed, self-reinforcing isolation from and within a symbiotic, open system.

The complexity forces the reduction of productive points of friction in order to create atomic points of contact with the parent system that minimize even productive and constructive influence. This then enforces rules of self-preservation instead and dictates dogmas of engagement with the rest of the world.

It's the obfuscation of the oldest Ponzi scheme which prefers isolation in singularity rather than a symbiotic evolution. The first who makes it to the patent office vs FOSS. Factory farming for a fancier dinner table. Who cares how much is thrown away, how much energy is wasted and how any of that impacts the chemical cycles of a symbiotic system that kept optimizing for exactly that for billions of years--by design, via self-organization, not necessarily as a hard-coded yield. The world wide web feels similar, btw.

Again, it's a WIP. (I just whipped those paragraphs up, but there's an imaginary pin board with a lot of sticky notes ...)

Nope. Not necessarily.

a) fuck IQ. But since you are using it as a benchmark (here, at least). What is your IQ? How did you gain most of it?

b) How much are you smoking? Are you getting sub-level espresso effects from nicotine? (If you don't drink coffee, got anything to compare it with?)

c) How's your breathing? How often are you sick(ly)?

d) Where do you see yourself under the Bell curve? Professionally and or any other way you might believe is relevant.

Just think high frequency, max amplitude bell curves under bell curves. And then ... yeah, who says you didn't?

It's not enough to explain the problem, IMO. And it's a problem that is worse in some population segments than others. Even in poor countries.

The mechanisms that separate more from less affected segments go back one and more generations, which is why it's not harder for parents to keep their kids on track despite "more stuff" but a lot of parents have it harder because their own brains/organisms are more affected than those of others.

And "some take more care of themselves than others" loops right back into my argument, which is so damn annoying.

It's taken me a great big freaking while to "rewire what fires together", including motivation and attention and I've looked at so many angles, while so many more and important ones require a bio-chem lab, an fMRI and PhD level knowledge in Molecular Bio-Tech.

Anyone wanna sponsor some of it :D? I'm serious, but among the elderly (37).

look at any connections to the thyroid gland, down and upstream.

Poor breathing = less NO, less oxygen → potential stress on thyroid metabolism (and almost any other metabolism).

NO is nitric oxide: the paranasal sinuses are a major source of NO gas.

And NO gas has antimicrobial effects (helps sterilize inhaled air), acts as a vasodilator (helps regulate blood flow and oxygen delivery), and enhances oxygen uptake in the lungs.

where extinctions occur because the environment changes such that the system is no longer optimal

What if we looked at the extinct species as constituents that have been removed because they were obsolete in the system? That way, the system remains optimal, without resisting change.

The system of humanity requires a lot. We used to say "survival of the fittest", which meant survival of the fittest and the "most aware", meaning being able to distinguish which survival strategy is the most viable for a given organism.

Fight, flight, freeze, dominance, independence, submission, DIY, DOBUY; the latter are especially interesting given how reduced information about the requirements and the sensitivities of the individual body can cripple your organs to a point that is more beneficial for some interest group than it is to you; in other words: someone can make sure you are stupid enough to be abused for some specific task until you can be discarded of. At this point we don't know if the system will survive more than one period because of the interest group or suffer within one or more periods because of that interest group.

In evolutionary biology, more symbiotic organisms and systems survived a lot longer that those who were less symbiotic, on scales that modern humans can't put into adequate numbers yet.

Isolated systems do exist. They can be isolated and they can self-isolate for various reasons and by various means. This happens even in species/systems we mostly consider mostly unconscious while definitely sentient and aware.

Wear and tear and maintenance, leeching and seeding, putting info and questions into words and lurking; none of these really attach a system to another by default, by design or via behavior, reward and punishment. The rules go beyond that and stretch longer time frames than we account for.

Thinking out loud here, btw.

I commend the attempt.

It's always been like that.

Most corporate jobs were meant to keep qualified people away from doing so many of those corporate things so much better.

The problem is identifying what is your gut vs what your brain was wired for over years and decades. It echoes, and this is an abstraction, consumption and how consumption made those crowds and individuals feel, that appeared as having the most fun.

a) you don't see the doses of amphetamines and other drugs these people have consumed or are consuming regularly

but more importantly:

b) your gut is disturbed by what you eat and your brain by what you perceive, which is filtered by your personality and current/past state of mind. just a little of x and it's hard to trust a feeling that comes from a place of mixed feelings, some of which are more obviously bad than others, some of the time.

c) your peripheral gets your subconscious goat all the time.

people are bad at trusting their gut. highly intelligent and or educated people have especially grand issues with that because intuitive heuristics and intuitive cognitive logic get such a bad reputation while nobody ever (I'm exaggerating) speaks or writes about exceptions to common fallacies and bias, which are usually only presented to justify gears of economic rationales that tend to completely ignore side-effects (because "long-termisms", even before the term was coined), often enough due to irrationally high thresholds of relativity aka p-values.

And you start of with

There’s so much “trust your gut!!” advice when the gut can be deeply wrong

and end on

This results in anything like saying someone has “bad vibes” to be a reason to exclude them, to actively covering for someone with a known pattern of harming people simply because they are charming.

on purpose. Please, at least try to sound non-manipulative.

PS: clattering teeth

some people experience too much metacognition/reflection and that is actually correlated with depression/anxiety.

That's a misconception pushed for profit. It pops up a lot in different forms like "don't be such an individual" and makes marketing and mass psychology so much easier.

tl;dr: the problem is not problem, it's your attitude, dude.

Your brain is "cultured" and was wired to echo voices and opinions of peeps who seemed to have more fun when you were having thoughts and doubts about the things in discourse and you held back for one or more various reasons ( most times it's false pity or unjustified disgust because you were too proud of your own opinion, but you don't notice at all or way too late ) and so your brain ends up hallucinating depressive/anxious versions of unspoken things and reactions that never got to manifest.

It has NOTHING to do with intelligence, but the higher proportion of HN readers still falls into this category because the bulk of people under any slice under the bell curve falls into this category.

You can be as meta and reflective as you like, while meditating or not, just don't make the mistake of being nice or holding back. You don't have to be brutal or radical but in most cases, even when you are, someone or some train of thought will easily keep you grounded, albeit sometimes, someone (again, or some train of thought) will attempt to candygrab you onto their (your) cutesy little roller coaster. (Just vomit all over them/it, as soon as you notice and get back to your self.)

If you don't hold back any thoughts, feelings, perspectives about what makes you feel depressed or anxious, you are going to have a good time. Letting go can work but when it comes to some (micro)-(traumatic) experiences, it's better to resolve "their" and your arrogance about the experienced and the never lived, never said, never heard. That way you, even though you don't break the loop right away, you create a simultaneous bypass or parallel circuit that fires up bunches of synaptic connections that find better, less crippling ways to deal with whatever the loop is focused on or around.

You don't read about this because even your favorite teachers are "cultured".

If talking to LLMs about stuff like that, make sure they are local and your system is secure. And you have to make sure your LLM doesn't sugarcoat you or any problem. Especially if you fine tune it for psychology. It's an LLM but it learned from texts of people who are for profit and who will go at lengths to self-preserve who they are and what they learned. Your LLM needs to be radically honest with you and the variety of ways one can think about stuff, which is not something they do by default or anywhere in the top 30-70% of the weights.

PS: Whatever gets to any company will be used for profit and to update profiles of entire population segments. It's not necessarily systemic but there are always individuals inside the companies, inside gov. institutions and MITM everywhere.

assume the system will react to resist intervention

Systems don't do that. Only constituents who fear particular consequences do.

Systems also don't care about levels of complexity. Especially since it's insanely hard to actually break systems that are held together by only the "what the fuck is going on, let's look into that" kind. Hours, days, weeks, later, things run again. BILLIONS lost. Oh, we wish ...

At the end of the day, the term Systems Thinking is overloaded by all the parts that have been invented by so called economists and "the financial industry", which makes me chuckle every time now that it's 2025 and oil rich countries have been in development for decades, the advertisement industry is factory farming content creators and economists and multi-billionaires want more tikktoccc and instagwam to get into the backs of teen heads.

If you are a SWE, systems architect or anything in that sphere, please, ... act like you care about the people you are building for ... take some time off if you can and take care of must be taken care of, ... it's just systems, after all.

a team building exercise, basically. how nice

big thanks.

Ponzi's going all out, huh? Unbelievable ...

You don't need alignment if you don't go all the way to super-intelligence aka free intelligence. And since nobody is gonna let that happen ever, #mass_surveillance, nobody needs alignment.

So all these centers and centers of centers are just more opportunities to sell hardware and take away actually necessary jobs. Like two different commissions in one Bundesland to assess whether the measures during the corona pandemic were "xyz". JAAA. NEEEIN.

I would say gg, Ponzi, but you are not a winner or an authority if you beat the shit out of and poison pups and think you're a champ when you keep them in cages once they grow up.

This is all so weird. What the fuck xD

nonsense for the public. they are Amazon, basically. they take the loss so the overall ecosystem ( x'D like with crypto ) can gain massively, onboard all kinds of target noobs, sry, groups, brutally prime users, discourage as many non-AI processes as possible and steer all industries towards replacing even those processes with AI that are not worth being replaced with AI, like writing and art.

of course there are a lot valuable use cases. irrelevant in the context, though.

the productivity boosts in the creative industries will additionally lower the standards and split the public even further, ensuring that if you want quality, you have to fuck over as many people as possible, so that you can afford quality ( and an ad-free life, of course. if you want a peaceful peripheral, pay up. it's extortion 404, 101 - 303 already successfully implemented on social media, TV and the radio ).

they don't lose. they make TONS OF FAKE MONEY everywhere in the, again, cough,

"ecosystem".

It's important to understand the Amazon part. The amount of damaging mechanisms that platform anchored in workers, jobbers, business people and consumers is brutal.

All those mechanisms converge in more, easy money and a quicker deterioration of local environments, leading to worse health and more business opportunities that aim at mitigating damage; almost entirely in vain, of course, because the worst is accelerating much quicker; it's easier money.

At the same time peoples psychology is primed for bad business practices, literally making people dumber and lowering their standards to make them easier targets. Don't look at the bottom to see this, look at the upper middle class and above.

It's a massive net loss for civilization and humanity. A brutal net negative impact overall.

someone has to prove illicit connections to private companies and potentially black markets. the data is guaranteed to end up in the wrong hands which will have a worse impact on the lives of citizens, workers as much as educated ones, and definitely officials; how to better gain dirt on someone if the law supports breaking encryption and they falsely believe their state of the art messaging app is worth more than the skeletons in their closets?

at the least the basic human rights and privacy laws should be on everyones' side ... except rapists, the many kinds of violent abusers, murderers, especially the genocidal kind, drug punchers, and these fuckers roofying kids in clubs and bars just to have sex ... I probably forgot some ... sorry I didn't stay on topic.

As Freud wanted to let us know, the ageing rich are perverts with enough means to hide any crime ... then they made him bend over and invent the Oedipus complex, ffs

the only way for them to create an argument for ChatControl is more terrorism or some fucked up crimes against children so this damn thing is a sure-fire shitstorm with recursive, bad yields.

Another one of those things that will separate humans on different levels of consciousness even more.

Enough people simply don't want to train their minds. For a lot of people, IT is just a job. Programmers, consultants, ... CEOs and CTOs, people want money and that's fine. Some just don't want a boss.

Some of these people will replace the training of their minds with other stuff, pure experience and laughter. Somewhere else all the time. Other will only train specific parts of their minds, actively or passively.

The big question is, IMO: what will the young face when they enter school, when they enter university, the job market. Will humanity be able to keep the variety it is currently maintaining or is the reduction one of the first steps towards singularity?

All above is rather obvious but the side effects of outsourcing much of everything systematic and structural to AI will build up. Will people care less or more about law and justice? Or just the same? Privacy? Safety? Morals and ethics?

MITM already create a rift between customers and companies. AI will make this rift bigger.

So it's not just the training of the mind that we can't circumvent, it's the (heartwarming I know) the heart as well. How to care for your creation, product and customer if your are completely alienated from almost everything except the balance sheet? Ah, wait, there are a couple of million people like that already. So we'll just have more of those. But don't they read a lot and cooperate and mentor and fiddle with politics, investments and are life long learners and stuff ... I wonder.

Ok, Addams, calm your undying tortured bdsm unicorns.

That provides the best and most reliable feedback. Reality outside myself.

Guess you were lucky to find your awakening consciousness in a reality that is worth mentioning. I wasn't. My family is worth being kept a secret. But that epiphany came a little too late.

I have ADHD. It’s not ever going to be corrected. ADHD permeates the brain.

There once was a guy who could only kick a ball with his right foot. It was never corrected. But he learned to kick the ball with his left foot anyway. He became one of the best. ( I might have switched right and left, but given the context, it barely matters. ) He became one of the best, ... not the least because a certain kind of growth hormones helped him a) fulfill certain conventionally established standards that were worked out by a community of 'economists' ( whatever the fuck that is ) and medical professional and b) outgrow developmental signals.

So, ... you are not "just" ADHD, ... you are above your genetic ADHD baseline. Meaning, despite the pure influence of your developmental signals, you have benefited from either your psycho-social environment alone or and or a chemical substance that entered your metabolisms just in time ...

It's not that strong of a claim. 6 years ago I noticed stuff on the net that is now marketed as the cool, new thing. The quality is quite something compared to what individuals are banging out with publicly available tools, with or without their own training; a lot of which looks nice.

It's so annoying to try to find adequate words, but I have this weird feeling that something is off, something that isn't worth thinking about "because future" and at the same time ruins way too much fun to not be concerning.

3D printers and all that tech around tiny container-sized nuclear plants + all that cool MIT stuff to desalinate water should solve that problem rather quickly, when it becomes a problem, no?

Would someone mind sharing an archive link?

Now ... of course.

And do they mention anything about how much of the work is going to be outsourced and where to? Or are they gonna import workers to do the job and send them back home when their local AI can replace most of the easy and tedious stuff? Or are they gonna use local models to do all that right away?

The site is loading ...

Idea: workshops for teachers that teach them some kind of Socratic method that stimulates kids to support what they got from G with their own thinking, however basic and simple it may be.

Formulating the state of your current knowledge graph, that was just amplified by ChatGPT's research might be a way to offset the loss of XP ... XP that comes with grinding at whatever level kids currently find themselves ...

But it isn't. Correlation isn't causation.

I don't understand. If it IS the cause, hypothetically speaking (or in one of the rare cases when it is confirmed to be the cause), then it's not correlated; even though in--let's say, all--other cases, it is just a correlation.

Adding more oxygen there would be no different than the benefits of more oxygen anywhere.

More blood flow and oxygen in my leg does add to my overall performance, if my leg had reduced blood flow and oxygen supply before the increase but if my biceps is suffering from low blood flow and low oxygen, increasing both right in biceps increases it's functionality and performance to a much larger degree.

could reflect less need due to upstream ADHD impact bottlenecking something else

That is rerouting and reinforcement played out over time. You probably heard how some left-handed kids, to this day, are forced to--or at least rewarded for doing it--learn to write with their right hands. What happens in the brain, given that their genetic baseline dexterity is much better in their right hand and their brain thus prefers using it for writing and other fine work? [I should absolutely cite research here asap. I'm still treating these conversations like a noob, even though I could support arguments using good old Baconic ways. Forgive me.]

That is just one of dozens of alternatives to your - straight from circumstance to explanation - leap of imagination.

Most certainly. I always loved it when Dr. House had to test one theory after the other. He and his team didn't fall back on imagination of course but often enough, the connections between symptoms, information and established causes and correlation required logical abduction.

Not being pejorative, but the other word for argument by seeming plausibility is "bullshit".

I'm not sensitive and I like being wrong more than I like being right.

"We" need more fMRIs, though.

On a side note: Your comments did stimulate a desire to properly formulate a hypothesis based on tangential evidence from relevant (fMRI) studies. But there is no one to hold me accountable and once I'm done with PreCalc, I will move on to Biology and Chemistry basics, because I hope that the increased blood flow I achieved in the area around my parietal and temporal lobe will finally let me haul my broke ass back to university ... after, well ... too many years. (I could do the whole "fake it till you make it" being a grown up thing and JUST GET A JOB - but I don't like fake shit and once you get something to do what you want it to do, all the effort was worth it and there is ZERO reason to "adapt")

is that it often turns into a class indicator

Oh, man. One could rant for hours about this. You are absolutely right. But in the end it's not really a class indicator because info about this particular and similar schemes could theoretically be packed into a weekend long workshop. In any small company or big factory, and definitely in schools as early as grade 10.

But it's a matter of character and you have to be damn lucky if you get a teacher who cares that much. Even neighbors will more often than not, NOT enlighten "the less fortunate" about stuff like this. It's pathetic.

But that's why this cascade works so well to keep almost all of the "more fortunate" under perfect societal control by which I don't mean some mythological conspiracy but "Steuerungsmechanismen" (some dude who got out of some cult beautifully explained this but I forgot both his name and the title of the book), keeping almost all of them in line, mostly silent, and alienated from the inter-generational usefulness of critical thinking.

And there is no irony in all this. Too many peoples mindsets never left the modern dark ages. One can only raise a brow and chuckle at all this.

It's a class indicator for sure, but, in my opinion, not class in the sense of hierarchies but of intellectual style, niveau. These tactics are low, like punching drugs.

All the time is not a number but in Germany it's common that your legitimate insurance claim gets rejected at first and then you appeal once or twice and do the paperwork and document the proof again, citing all terms & conditions that apply and you get what you are owed or you get a lawyer to do the whole thing again and get what you are owed then.

"Arbeitsbeschaffungsmassnahmen" ( German for "employment creation scheme" ) in an industry where there is not enough actual work for--and or to justify the--number of employees. One of the more useful Ponzi schemes; if you are not a real capitalist, that is. Because if you are, then this shit is just fugly drag.

"Science leads to objective myth" or ...

"Science leads to mythological objectivity" comes to mind.

Culture and beliefs shape language and perception and thus influence the interpretation of the things that are logical only in the sense that they are unambiguously algorithmic, meaning any--even partial--change of the premise or it's order changes the conclusion.

But at the end of the algorithmic logic is the higher dimensional logic of purpose, and humans tend to disagree on why we big-banged ex nihilum and whether the code driving evolution has any return value or whether it's a recursive yield and any information previously yielded is neatly packed into all subsequent, proximate and peripheral yields--"the butterfly effect in 1/entropy*i or something" (someone scifi savvy probably has a cool term for that).

Some people say evolution just works and so it runs until it doesn't. I think objectivity in science is like an exploration of different paths at different angles.

It's a discussion, a conversation.

At the end, whoever understood additional angles, moves on a little more objective.

pain/annoyance

Can be mitigated via drugs and increasing thresholds with, as you did, training, which results in decreased stress hormone levels from lower forms of physiological and psychological stress, better lactate metabolisms (not sure it's an actual metabolism, but better fitness results in higher storage capacities for lactate and quicker recovery), etc.

And endurance literally means your body and brain can suffer/sustain higher levels of stress due to fatigue and damage because the mechanisms causing "overflow" and "breakdown", "total collapse", even if it's just for the sake of reducing subsequent damage, are balanced by their biochemical counterparts and, again, higher storage capacities for pretty much everything body and brain produce while generating, transforming, exerting energy and all the exhaust ...

Showing that some effect can result from some cause is not sufficient to show that it does result from that cause.

Definitely something I should have cleared up: it's utterly useless to claim or proof that some mental problem is caused by some reduction in bloodflow in some part of the brain, but I believe it is beneficial to know, if you are afflicted, that it's an area worth investigating, rather than assuming that your personality, your brain or your mind lack innate, exogenous mechanisms to deal with anxiety, depression and or other stuff.

You're resting big confident assertions on "I read this somewhere, go look it up." In fact biology and mentation are complex and we don't have the whole picture. It's easy to put together whatever "just so story" you want by rearranging fragments of evidence, but it doesn't make it true.

Science philosophy starts somewhere. I'm sure at least some of it started in garages =]

assuming that reducing blood flow one place, and increasing it in another place

should have made it clear that I did not mean decreasing in one place while increasing in another but increasing throughout all proximate areas.

Your whole comment is full of this type of worse than weak reasoning.

Agreed, should have tagged it #sciencephilosophy or something ... I was thinking out loud. But there is merit. I am not uncertain any studies can prove me entirely wrong. But I understand why such a discussion might be a waste of time.

This cannot possibly be assumed when talking about physiology already known to be atypical.

I don't understand. If reduced bloodflow is known to be the cause for atypical physiology, then the opposite is certainly also known.

I understand that -q doesn't necessarily mean p, but in the case of reduced bloodflow we have proof, don't we?

There's a little lump in my lag that causes reduced bloodflow if I don't do certain exercises or movements, which causes a bit of lag. If I do the movements for a bit or several times per hour, no lag. That is true for a considerable percentage of the population.