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Oh yeah, I mean I certainly think it’s a false premise. But it is a premise someone is giving.

Going to give a short reply to one point because I’m about to go to sleep (I try to make an effort to be honest as to why I’m not fully engaging with the entire comment) but re: strawman, I don’t think so. When Dario Amodei is saying SWEs will be replaced soon [0], I think it follows that then he believes Claude can write a native app as well as a native app dev.

0 - https://finance.yahoo.com/news/anthropic-ceo-predicts-ai-mod...

I don’t doubt his expertise, I just am not convinced it’s the right tool.

To me it comes back to the premise I hear a lot from AI hype men (of which I do not subscribe but it’s worth clarifying that I find great value in using it for code) that the code doesn’t matter anymore. I just don’t know how to square that claim with the idea that we’re limited still by JS/TS being easier to use or approachable despite inferior TUI toolsets.

Next time, try being polite, it’ll make me way more inclined to engage with you.

If I missed your point it was unintentional. Instead of being rude, try gentle clarification.

But now I’ve lost interest. Have a good day!

Code isn’t what the majority of software engineering is.

Alright, sure, my bad. I thought it was clear that it was meant tongue in cheek, but I’ll accept it was unclear.

That said, with respect what I clarified, I’m curious your thoughts.

Yeah, this is what I’m trying to get at.

There’s two arguments in competition:

1. LLMs make it cheap (in the time sense) and easy to build

2. Rewrites and/or writing something in a native app or program is harder and more time consuming

I think I am willing to take it as an axiom that a native version of CC would be superior from a user perspective. Performance, etc.

I just don’t see how one can say that building things reliably good is easy now when the company providing these tools can’t even do it well.

It’s hyperbolic and intended to generalize the sentiment I perceive from others.

Dario Amodei said in January that he expected software engineers to be replaced [0], so I suppose the quote should be extended to “can do anything… a software engineer can do”

And I think we can all agree that SWE is on the more complex end of all white collar jobs. So, my thinking is that if SWE can hypothetically be replaced, so can many other jobs. Hence, the claim the models can “do anything” intending to capture the majority of white collar work.

This, of course, is if you take their claim at face value - which I certainly do not.

[0] https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/ai-ceo-says-softw...

Because I’ve been told that Fable can do anything :-)

My question is moreso “why was it ever JS in the first place”

& the cost of a native rewrite would be cheaper than acquiring Bun no matter how you shake it

Correct

And the question of “if AI is so amazing, shouldn’t it enable easy development of a native TUI even if JS is easier at first?”

Don’t get me wrong I find great value in coding agents daily. Just finding the hype cycle tiring.

Maybe I’m taking crazy pills, but I’m still stuck on “why the hell does a TUI need to run in terminal React by way of JavaScript”

The fact that Anthropic felt the need to buy a runtime so they could make their TUI better speaks more to the quality of engineering than anything else IMO.

If rewrites are so easy, why not rewrite CC in a native language? Would’ve been a hell of a lot cheaper.

It’s directing the city to treat it as false advertising in existing law if I understand correctly

Yep. A large part of the value prop for me is easy portability of the same games and saves to couch or PC with zero effort or re-purchase.

Oh yeah. Yep that is definitely true.

I'm not sure I understand what part of my post this is in reference to. I agree that the democratic party gets a _lot_ of money. Are you contrasting to something in my post, or agreeing?

Appreciate clarification, I could also just be dumb today

It's a fair point that it's become one of those words that doesn't really _mean_ anything anymore in common discourse. Like Marxism. For all intents and purposes, Marxism is basically "anything I don't like that's left of center."

I mean, anyone who claims with any level of seriousness that Democrats are Marxist have _zero_ clue what that means.

At risk of greatly oversimplifying American politics, it's truly impressive how good Democrats are at shooting themselves in the foot.

That's why I personally believe Sanders and Mamdani have found so much success with the working class; they keep themselves separate from the Culture War slugfest that mainline Democrats either voluntarily engage in or let Republicans drag them into.

IMO the vast majority of those "culture war" issues (LGBT freedoms, etc) are incredibly important, but to the average poor rural American it feels incredibly distant from their day to day. I can't put my finger on it exactly but Democrats have a tendency to message on those issues in ways that are either counter-productive or get soundbit saying something moronic. So when Fox News and whatnot say that Democrats are prioritizing other groups over them and message on it day after day, it's not hard to see why that propaganda becomes effective.

That's not to say that Sanders/Mamdani/etc don't message on social issues, they obviously do, but they are somehow effective at not alienating voters who may otherwise latch onto that in a negative way.

I don't have a good solution. Just my observations.

I would highly recommend the book "Four Thousand Weeks" by Oliver Burkeman. The main theme of it is that many of our anxieties stem from inability to accept our inherent limitations as humans, and that trying to come up with the perfect productivity system / planning / etc. are all coping mechanisms for that angst that only fuel it over time.

As someone who has struggled greatly with these issues, it was an enlightening read.

To loosely quote the book, shifting your perspective doesn't erase the anxiety, but makes it not quite so unbearable.

If you right click on the page, you can 'open image in new tab' and get an image of the current screen. I assume that means it is rendering an entirely new image each frame... which is a tad wild.

You’re assuming that progress will continue at the same rate (it’s plateaud a bit as far as I can tell, I can look for sources tomorrow but am on phone now :))

& I think it’s fairly demonstrated that the industry isn’t profitable for training ever increasingly huge models, which get exponentially more expensive each iteration

As a certified Gen Z member: respectfully, what the fuck are you on about?

The mythical Gen Z you are describing is the hyperbolic exaggeration that is equivalent to me describing all boomers as racist, all Gen X as entitled, all millennials as lazy, etc.

Poe’s law displayed beautifully here

IMO English as a programming language is a fools errand. Part of the reason why we _have_ programming languages is because it turns out human language is too ambiguous.

This is gonna kill someone.

My sister went to a furry convention this last weekend. I don't get it, but yeah, I am just kind of like "cool! I hope it was fun!"

My philosophy in most things. Even if I don’t understand it, who cares? It’s America and that means freedom

I’d prefer kindness and good faith when talking to strangers, but maybe my expectations are too high.

Do you think you’ll change someone’s mind by being an asshole? Rarely works.

turd bucket autist

I’d be more willing to engage with your argument in good faith without inflammatory language like this. Try and meet people where they are and these conversations become easier.

I feel the same way. Maybe it’s the ADHD, maybe I’m just dumb, but I cannot parse well the giant walls they tend to produce.

That doesn’t mean evidence for banal claims isn’t required.