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they’re marketing very aggressively through posts that slander GraphenOS
I would really appreciate it if you could give some references - any at all - to back this claim.
All I have seen is GrapheneOS folks (or probably just a certain individual affiliated with the GrapheneOS org) accusing them of doing this.
If what you want is android and you have privacy concerns, GrapheneOS is probably the best you can get.
Then again, SailfishOS is a linux with much of the usual linux stuff like userland with bash, coreutils, glibc, systemd, wayland, pulseaudio etc.
Probably things like fixing the mainboards to the casing, putting in batteries, back covers, flashing the software, running hw tests, packaging etc.
I have a 32 GB iPad, I think it's the year 2020 model. The OS alone uses 19 GB ("iPadOS" 12.3 GB + "System Data" 6.4 GB) so yeah, not much chance doing any OTA updates on that one with the requirement of 13+ GB free.
Maybe some day the fruit company with all their billions will be able to innovate a solution for deploying for example browser fixes so that they can be installed without requiring tens of gigabytes of free storage on the device. Meanwhile, we're stuck using a computer and iTunes for that.
I guess it's subject to debate whether the cost indeed is prohibitive in the case of Norway. They are a small but extremely wealthy country - after all, they currently hold the equivalent of 1,5% of all the listed companies globally through the investments of their sovereign wealth fund.
Oh but you don't usually need to care for the dot itself so much as it's just an indicator that you can do a middle swipe left/right to move between stacked pages.
They are also less than 2 months away from the first deliveries of the Jolla Phone 2026, a new SailfishOS device they have designed and built from scratch. Over the past years the official Sailfish experience has largely been relying on Sony Open Device program - a co-operation which hasn't always been very smooth for the customers.
I have been daily driving SFOS on a Sony Xperia 10 III for the past 3 years and it works well for me. I think the 10 III is the current "peak Sailfish" at least among the officially supported devices but this should change once the new phones roll out in early July. For new orders of the 2026 phone they are currently aiming for delivery in September in the supported markets (EU, UK, Norway and Switzerland).
It certainly was political - with tax policies, you can make nuclear uneconomic which is exactly what happened in Sweden. For decades, the production and capacity taxes were a material part of the operating cost for operators. Only some 10 years ago the political positions started to change and become more nuclear-friendly.
This is the same issue that got a local drug organization busted some time ago - their entire α-PVP cooking operation was busted after one of the gang members was caught during a sale, his iphone was confiscated and the entire org was right there in the notification history.
I guess that's what you deserve if you trust apple with your operational security.
Oh but isn't that great. This is just the kind of digital sovereignty these times call for.
Sometimes I wish the Germans had an island of their own somewhere up north near the american continent.
Me and a couple of friends read “The Soul of a New Machine” in our teens and it was a very influential book for us. In the late 90's I found a brand new hardcover copy of the local translation in a discount bookstore and bought it with the intention of giving it as a present to one of those friends sometime later in life.
I ended up keeping the book for ~25 years and only at the time of his 50th birthday a few years ago I reckoned we're old enough now. I read the book once more and shipped it to him, literally halfway across the world. Great memories. Thank you for your work, Mr. Kidder.
No final word as of yet, but in their most recent forum update [1] less than 2 weeks ago they said this is "unlikely for now".
[1] https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/jolla-phone-update-lights-on-...
The firm with partly russian ownership went bankrupt a couple of years ago. The russian fork of the software lives on as AuroraOS in their local market but the current Jolla has no ties to russia.
There's a new Jolla Phone in pre-marketing phase right now (almost 9000 phones have been pre-ordered so far). First device deliveries are scheduled for this summer and this should easily be the new benchmark for officially supported SailfishOS devices.
The situation with Sony Xperia devices is not great, the best experience is still on the X10III (from 2021 I think) and there are significant issues with the support of 10 IV and V generation devices (a free beta release is available for those as well).
It seems that recently there has been quite a lot of buzz in the Sailfish community compared to the past few years. In the public repos there are some interesting contributions like xdg-shell support for Lipstick, which looks set to enable compiling many previously unavailable Linux apps natively if that will actually be integrated in an upcoming OS version.
Back in 1980's the Finnish public broadcaster YLE used to broadcast Commodore 64 software in their radio show Silikoni. They actually have a recording the first such episode available online at https://yle.fi/a/20-108142 - of course, this is in Finnish.
It was not a very reliable method but it did work if you had good FM reception and a high quality tape deck. I guess it helps that the data rate is only 300 bits per second or so.
Exactly. And on that list, running Android apps on SFOS is very much a software feature, imo quite unlikely to be disabled purely in hardware.
I'm not sure if this article is factually correct in claiming the privacy switch to be a physical disconnect for microphone, camera and bluetooth. IIRC Jolla advertised that the user would be able to configure the exact function of the privacy switch, which would mean that there's some system software involved.
Google has a DC in Scandanavia that they shut down a few days a year when it gets too hot, otherwise it's just cooled by ocean water.
They do? Which facility is this? I'm quite surprised to hear this would happen, in Scandinavia of all places.
Although the SFOS community did express some interest in the 3.5 mm jack in the polls earlier, there's no headphone jack. The expected device sales volume probably would not cover the added engineering cost from such modifications to the mainboard reference design at the announced price point.
Hardware specs look pretty nice, SailfishOS should work nicely on this device. The design language remains faithful to the original Jolla Phone from more than a decade ago. :)
Being based in Switzerland, which is not a member state, PC Engines is not an EU company.
I'm not sure I understand how an American company would be able to provide any service that could be "sovereign European".
Oh my... I'm just left wondering if Apple releasing a giant sock for your phone equals to the proverbial moment of your taxi driver giving you advice on stocks to buy.
I have a Sony Xperia 10 III with SailfishOS and it easily does 48 hours on a charge when I'm not doing a lot of screen time. Also on days when I use it for tracking / navigation on 6-8 hour bicycle rides it easily lasts for the entire day and then some. I think this is not bad for a device that has been in daily use for almost three years and still has the original battery.
I'm running a couple of messenger clients and a web browser (Fennec under Android App Support as the native one is sadly a bit behind the times currently) all the time. The only thing I've noticed to eat a ton of battery is having wifi enabled when outside the range of my own networks, it seems the scanning the phone does in the background to look for known wifi networks is not energy efficient at all.
Yeah but you know, there's gonna be a million robotaxis driving around in 2 months time, pinky promise.
Reading about all the tamper detection on the device makes me wonder what would be the easiest way to trigger the tamper mode. After all, being able to do that on just a handful of devices would be an efficient denial of service attack on a retail location when the majority - and sometimes all - of payments go through these things.
That PCB transformer design is interesting.
It was stored on a punched paper tape.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altair_BASIC#Origin_and_develo...
Your project certainly looks very interesting! Any chance of another device with a smaller form factor sometime in the future? This one is huge :)
FWIW, the share of Swedish (the other official language) speakers in Finland is about 5%.