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Yeah but messaging apps are really only useful if there are lots of people on them to message.

So in the real world a relatively small number of providers, WhatsApp, Signal etc, are in a position where all your friends are going to be on them. And those are the ones likely to be named and told they need to implement image scanning/review.

You’re way off here.

Conflating DCT-based compression of audio data (like MP3) to dynamic-range compression of an audio signal (as done on an audio compressor during production) shows how little your grasping the problem.

It doesn’t work very well for TV in my opinion. Ads still sound louder as they are mastered differently.

I’ve no skin in this game, and no desire to ever see or hear ads. I just hope we don’t kick off a “loudness war” for TV/Movie audio by mandating the average volume across entire programs has to hit some high level like modern music or ads have.

Uh huh.

What people are now talking about here is to normalise the “average volume” (by using compression to increase it, or just lowering the volume to decrease).

The problem is the “average volume” of 30 minutes of video, depending on the content, could be quite low.

So matching the ad to that level might not work. The nightmare response we might get is the average volume of TV/movies will be pushed to the limit in future, removing any dynamic range or impact. To comply with the rules for ads. Sigh.

Replaygain works reasonably well for modern music, as do the LUFS units.

The problem with video content is there can be extended very quiet parts. If you try to bring the “average” volume of an ad to the same “average” volume as the last 30 minutes of a drama it could end up being insanely low. The average level of the drama being low due to long quiet parts.

Not always the case but this problem isn’t as simple as it might seem.

My main hope is that this doesn’t kick off a “loudness war” for tv/movie content on streaming in an effort to get its average volume up as high as the ads.

It definitely costs them a lot.

Implementing v6 without doubt saves money for ISPs. Especially in the CGNAT game as those boxes aren’t cheap.

Exactly. And because the infra was never public in the US, and thus no “privatisation with rules”, it’s been a bit of a disaster.

Indeed.

This is a funny legacy of how telecoms was run and regulated in different countries.

Now the US has the least consumer choice, and shitty ISP practices from exploiting peering relations to selling user data.

I often said net neutrality was fine, but it was an answer to a problem created by the legally-enforced monopolies in the US.

Was that real DIA??

I’ve seen this commonly from them with residential service. They mostly give you a private v4 address behind CGNAT in addition to IPv6. If you want a public v4 they put you on their old network which has no v6.

Absolutely.

Bear in mind the scrapers wouldn’t need to use these proxies were they not being blocked by the sites they are scraping. So it’s being used to evade blocks.

For some content the level of scraping is outweighing real users, driving up costs and pushing them towards more closed models.

Wikipedia for example make content available free, if you start hammering the site they will rate limit you to keep the lights on. If you need the data fast in bulk they have a paid program to get it without scraping. But some prefer to neither adhere to reasonable request limits nor pay for their use of the infra; instead they choose to pay these grifters to avoid the rate limits.

Nah it’s messing up peoples home internet, and massively abused to perform denial of service attacks and scraping of web content by large AI companies who are otherwise blocked.

Your vision of a randomly-routed mesh internet overlay is also not very scalable bandwidth or latency wise.

CD has better dynamic range, sure. But a CD is also able to represent a signal with _much less dynamic range_ than it’s possible to cut on a record.

It was the move to digital that facilitated the loudness war.

In modern years it’s been fairly common for masters to vinyl to be less compressed than the CD release, for the simple reason vinyl has more limitations.

How do you know what it spat out is correct though?

If it’s beyond our ability to review and we blindly trust it’s correct based on a limited set of tests… we’re asking for trouble.

Usenet is a distributed policy from the ground up.

It’s centralised in the way you describe now that it’s only used for large files / piracy, but it used to me much more diverse.

So funny to think about this now.

Our email systems are mostly mediated by giant hyper-scale companies (Microsoft, Google etc). The location of mail servers being where the recipient is seems quaint (and wonderfully decentralised).

And even if we do manage our own servers they are automated, and apps often containerised. Nobody ends up with older MTA due to an OS upgrade.

Remember reading this like 20 years ago nice to see it again.