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If the goal is equity of outcome above-all-else, ignoring for any differences derived from the data, then why are we bothered investing so much time, money and effort into this area?

This might have been true 18+ months ago, but not now. HN now more closely resembles, and more closely acts like, Reddit in 2018 than HN in 2016.

While obviously not a bad deal, it's a far cry from options/RSUs and other standard annual bonuses offered at other tech companies.

Nobody is forcing people to work there.

You can't vote in Canada unless you've citizenship. You've to be physically present in Canada 3 years of every five to retain PR, not so with citizenship.

personally I'd say wait until profitable or >100 engineers

Personally I'd say delay until you can find an area causing such a performance or scalability issue that it justifies its own repo(s), build pipelines / devops / ops, deployable artifacts, and team to hold the context on it.

Without that, your profitability or engineering team is best invested into extending your offering to better service your customers.

There's no shame in wanting to differ from the status quo maintained since time immemorial, but don't pressure others into it.

Valid?

It's disappointing, but not surprising, that the focus seems to be entirely on the "wrong" side of the "desired" outcome.

At this point it amounts to fighting very hard to find any reason to undo a democratically determined result.

I'll put it in a mildly hyperbolic manner, to match the quality of the source this article came from:

Toronto gets the sloppy seconds of America's tech industry; the Canadian tech grads who couldn't move to the US, the Indian tech migrants who couldn't get US visas, the "startups" who couldn't get US VC funding, tech conferences etc. etc.

That some companies are seeking to lower their costs but retain "North American culture" by transferring some functions to Toronto is not an indication of the strength of Toronto, but its weakness. Cheap dollar, far cheaper salaries, cheap(er) office spaces, far cheaper politicians to buy if necessary, etc.

When anyone in the North American tech industry can name 5 bustling Canadian startups from the top of their mind, then maybe we can talk about the Canadian tech industry doing well. Until then, it's about as relevant in tech as Bangalore and jobs there are as relevant as any of those located in other outsourced, cost-reducing "tech centres".

Jesus, this paper is so biased it's palpable

Absolutely, but I don't think any media entity is portraying itself as unbiased these days?

Regardless, their desperate banner ads begging for $1 warms me inside.

Did the media write about email being used negatively when it was taking off?

When email was taking off, the media was still making vast amounts of money from print editions.

Now that this part of the industry is rapidly dying, it has pivoted to outrage-driven ad-clicks for revenue and their content has tailored itself appropriately.

I got about 3 paragraphs into the article and tired of the "white folks be like... but black folks be like" narrative.

Do better.

Doesn't take much to see this is a poor clone of indiehackers, whose content is written by someone who does not mainly use/speak English.

NYT's business model seems to have turned to latching on to whatever sentiment is currently popular and beating the metaphorical horse for clicks until it's a bloody pulp, before moving on to the latest "outrage" of the week.

In fact, in catering to simply the loudest popular sentiment, they put themselves in the position of having to apologize for their recent election coverage due to how utterly biased it ended up being.

I understand they're all struggling in the battle for people's attention these days, but as an institution they somehow seem to feel they still stand out from, and above of, others such as buzzfeed.

Bleating anonymously online about your own race in an attempt to garner internet points from racist strangers is “helping things”?

You're so virtuous. swoon.

It's this vicious rhetoric and finger pointing that lead to the election of Donald J Trump.

If the comments even here are an indication, it’s because people have absolutely zero level of understanding into the level of data Google produces and has access to on you.

their jackass developers who think they're saving the world with their "innovation"

May want to target the psychologists, behavioural economists and similar who come up with the gamification to drive some of this narcissistic behaviour.

Not that those doing the implementation of it are guilt-free, of course.

Can't wait until society moves past this "look at me, look at me, LOOK AT ME!" phase. Or it won't, and I'll die a bitter old man from it.

It's tribalism, and it has become absolutely rampant on this site recently.

You could simply make it mandatory time off.

Then I won't notify the company when I've had a child. Simple as.

Don't consider going down the road of "you must declare what is happening in your private life to your private employer" as someone else did either, without at least considering what an absolute breach of privacy that would involve.

This is incredibly dystopian and would be massive government and corporate overreach.

I would hope a reasonable person would never advocate for such intrusion.

As a society, we've decided that being able to continue the population is more important than the fortunes of any particular startup.

Err no. It wasn't long ago that a family could survive well on a single income with the mother at home, cars paid, schooling sorted and food on the table. Not even remotely feasible on a single income now, unless you're talking executive pay.

Society has by and large chosen to abandon the family when it comes to supporting reproduction. Hell, we're told that we aren't reproducing at rates enough to replace us and that the only solution is bringing in cheap immigrants (got to keep those wages down) rather than making having more kids more accessible to the people already here.

Society has chosen rabid capitalism at virtually every cost possible.

Unfortunately, HackerNews has had a significant influx of users over the last 18-24 months from other sites that shan't be named, and it has resulted in the same toxic behaviour/tribalism/feels-based-voting that exists on the site the same people discovered HN on.

I believe we're at the point where HN may need to reconsider the visibility of the voting system here, again unfortunately.

There is no more manly profession then working in tech for collage educated people.

Please state the culture for context. This is absolutely not the case in the West.

everyone with a new child gets (very long and equal) parental leave.

Is offered or is forced to take?

We're talking about running a business, not a safe space.

Most seem to have become disconnected with this reality in the era of our massively inflated economy (and tech industry).

It will be interesting to see the absolute meltdown that occurs when the next recession rolls around/investment moves on from tech.

1: I'm not advocating in favour of spending it front of the TV. Both are a waste.

2: The damage being done by social media and the rise in narcissism, toward society at large, towards children and towards mental health, is pretty well documented at this point.

Strive to be better, Robert. This is Reddit-tier content and behaviour, maybe you would be more comfortable staying there?

Interesting point.

I don't think behaving more like kids is something confined to dads, or even men as a whole either. It seems modern adults are maturing far more slowly or even showing some signs of regression now.

I don't have anything to compare it with, but grown men burning their evenings in front of a games console, playing games aimed at children, and grown women slathering pictures of themselves all over social media in an attempt to garner attention and social acceptance, with both groups seeming to want to be their kids' "buddies" more than ever, doesn't seem to be a positive direction for things to go in.

Who knows. I may be bah humbugging here. I'm young enough that I can't reasonably say "in my day adults were adults!", just that the direction things appear to be going in (socially, and as role models for children) does not appear to be promising.

If a startup is running on tight runway then female staff getting pregnant could be massively detrimental.

In many civilized parts of the world, a female employee getting pregnant will mean disruption during the pregnancy to accommodate doctor's visits and health issues, and then months of paid leave PLUS having to pay to backfill their position with a temp, plus the costs of recruiting and ramping up said temp.

That's a huge hit for an early stage startup to take.