Sure, and I think that flexibility further undercuts his "frontier labs will be fine" take, which depends on top US labs having pricing power.
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"Anthropic and OpenAI likely have among the lowest costs per unit of frontier-quality intelligence"
That's a big claim that his whole thesis rests on but is largely not backed up. Where are the apples-to-apples tokens-to-answer benchmarks that he's using - doesn't look like there are any, just a handwavy implication that US models are more token efficient, which they may be. But how is there so little effort in establishing this point in the article? And US labs may be in much different situations from one another: it's known that some labs like OpenAI bought big, early on compute and may have secured better pricing.
His article also does not mention the average price of electricity in China vs the US, which it seems like China leads on, and probably has the political power to more heavily subsidize. While I agree the COGS is often overlooked by top line benchmarks on coding tasks, etc, it seems that he's running on a big assumption while claiming "labs on the frontier will be fine".
OpenAI's first related fix was in 0.142.x on June 22 but apparently it wasn't sufficient and user have continued to complain. Seems like a thread with decent additional context: https://x.com/0x_kaize/status/2078872972245225586
Telcos need to implement STIR/SHAKEN in a binding way and it needs to be fully integrated into iOS/Android's UI. Spammers call from spoofed numbers, even numbers of, say, local schools (or from other people in your business) - so, if you get a call from a school and you've got kids, would you pick up? A couple of years ago I got a text that was "sent" from my boss (he didn't send it), etc.. The numbers aren't random.
This old post of mine may be of interest, where I point out: "After a bit of threat modeling, it becomes apparent that future spearphishing robocalls may not directly con you, but rather “farm” your voice data by asking you benign questions, and use that to train a voice model to penetrate more deeply into your network." A lot of this writing has been on the wall forever and many (I'm sure otherwise smart people in) mission critical industries like banking, ISPs, and more refused to even acknowledge the risks.
2021 - "Despite the prevalence of deepfake audio tech, banks and ISPs rush ahead with “voice print” authentication" https://keydiscussions.com/2021/12/07/despite-the-prevalence... ends with a section called "The next crisis: robocalls that spoof the voices of victims at scale"
Good luck actually unsubscribing from LinkedIn emails. The dark pattern they employ (or at least used to employ, for many many years) is to just periodically add new "categories" of email to send you, that you haven't yet unsubscribed from. Back in ~2015, out of frustration I changed my LinkedIn email to a throwaway
The odds of the OSS ecosystem existing in a permanent state of compromise have risen dramatically this year. (still not close, but the explosion in supply chain attacks is concerning)
PSA: this is true (the defaults), but there's a "Help improve Claude" setting that you can disable here https://claude.ai/settings/data-privacy-controls It's my understanding that, as long as this is off, Anthropic does not train on Claude Code conversations, inputs/outputs -- if anyone knows otherwise, please tell and provide a link if possible.
Meta's own research (and its use of it) has shown that it repeatedly ignores well-substantiated facts about the harms of its products. Now that Section 230 seems like a flawed shield, I fear the takeaway for other companies will be: never conduct honest research in the first place to preserve plausible deniability.
Meta has always wanted the appearance of caring about safety (helps them attract talent and keep mission-related morale high), while nearly always prioritizing growth (save for tiny blips of time, like in 2017 when the fallout of the cambridge analytica stuff was hitting a crescendo), whereas companies like X are run by people explicitly disinterested in putting significant resources into safety, especially research.
I will also add that, for the past few years, Meta and X both have become extremely hostile to external researchers of their platforms, shutting down access to tools and data.
Thanks - sorry, typo when i was shortening the title to get under the 80 character limit
I guess this comment got merged into a different thread (the times of india one). This comment was originally posted to this article's thread https://www.idnfinancials.com/news/61918/zuckerberg-has-fini...
This looks like a slop article. It seems to be referring (without a link) to https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/mar... which itself appears to be referring to this (without a link) https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/meta-to-create-new-applied-ai-en... Neither of these articles include the word "finished" in them.
Update: and fwiw here is Andy Stone saying it's false https://x.com/andymstone/status/2031129981267620314
"US officials have written draft regulations that would restrict AI chip shipments to anywhere in the world without American approval"
"In order to strike a blistering 1,000 targets in the first 24 hours of its attack on Iran, the U.S. military leveraged the most advanced artificial intelligence it's ever used in warfare" "Embedded into [Palantir's Maven Smart System] is Anthropic's AI tool Claude, a technology that was banned by the Pentagon last week after heated negotiations over the terms of its use in war. Over the last year military planners have seen Claude, paired with Maven, mature into a tool that is in daily use across most parts of the military, according to two of the people."
The app also includes wide-ranging AppleScript support. Here is a Gallery of ways to interact with the app from the command line, including via Claude Code, OpenClaw, etc: https://currentkey.com/automation via AppleScript. Some commands include:
- Flash a custom image in the menu bar as a visual notification, for ANY reason, via AppleScript.
- Pull usage data like total time, per-app time, per Space time, via AppleScript.
- Navigate to a specific, named MacOS Space via AppleScript.
You can also have the app call its custom AppleScript on Space-change and/or active app-change events.
"On Friday afternoon, Anthropic learned that the Pentagon still wanted to use the company’s AI to analyze bulk data collected from Americans. That could include information such as the questions you ask your favorite chatbot, your Google search history, your GPS-tracked movements, and your credit-card transactions, all of which could be cross-referenced with other details about your life. Anthropic’s leadership told Hegseth’s team that was a bridge too far, and the deal fell apart. Soon after, Hegseth directed the U.S. military’s contractors, suppliers, and partners to stop doing business with Anthropic."
original, paywalled: https://www.wsj.com/business/entrepreneurship/the-fundraisin...
"One authoritarian company won't get us there on their own, to say nothing of the other obvious risks. It is a dark path."
OpenAI President Greg Brockman was the biggest donor to Trump's super PAC in H2 2025, donating $25M https://www.techmeme.com/260102/p10#a260102p10
From the article: "Arnoldo had filmed much of the incident, but agents had taken his phone. He used Find My to locate the phone — at a vending machine for used electronics miles away, close to an ICE detention center. The footage, which ProPublica has reviewed, backed the family’s account of the chase."
I'm about to launch a new (now free) version of my Mac app, CurrentKey, which helps you keep track of workflows across macOS Spaces and track how you use your Mac. https://www.currentkey.com It had been a subscription app (4.5 stars) pulling in a few thousand per year, but I recently decided to try to broaden its appeal and make it free. The new version will launch within a day or two (the launch build is just "Waiting for Review" in App Store connect).
I'm working on Argon Chess, a deterministic chess variant with some degree of cheat resistance (hard to describe to chess engines like Fairy Stockfish) and tons of variety. A week ago, I added a way to play friends online a week ago (a Discord Activity) and a simple Play a Dumb AI feature on its website. You can also print the cards for free for offline play. https://argonchess.com/
On that $13.5B. How much of their massive spend on datacenters is obscured through various forms of Special Purpose Vehicles financing? (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45448199)
I thought to post this after seeing this in the news today:
OpenAI CEO Sam Altman warned the financial industry of a “significant impending fraud crisis” because of AI voice print fraud.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/openais-sam-altman-warns-ai-1...
I guess if it takes someone like San Altman saying something obvious for bank execs to listen (I'm sure security people at these companies have already told them these things), then so be it
OpenAI's tight spot:
1) They are far from profitability. 2) Meta is aggressively making their top talent more expensive, and outright draining it. 3) Deepseek/Baidu/etc are dramatically undercutting them. 4) Anthropic and (to a lesser extent?) Google appear to be beating them (or, charitably, matching them) on AI's best use case so far: coding. 5) Altman is becoming less like-able with every unnecessary episode of drama; and OpenAI has most of the stink from the initial (valid) grievance of "AI-companies are stealing from artists". The endless hype and FUD cycles, going back to 2022, have worn industry people out, as well as the flip flop on "please regulate us". 6) Its original, core strategic alliance with Microsoft is extremely strained. 7) and, related to #6, its corporate structure is extremely unorthodox and likely needs to change in order to attract more investment, which it must (to train new frontier models). Microsoft would need to sign off on the new structure. 8) Musk is sniping at its heels, especially through legal actions.
Barring a major breakthrough with GPT-5, which I don't see happening, how do they prevail through all of this and become a sustainable frontier AI lab and company? Maybe the answer is they drop the frontier model aspect of their business? If we are really far from AGI and are instead in a plateau of diminishing returns that may not be a huge deal, because having a 5% better model likely doesn't matter that much to their primary bright spot:
Brand loyalty from the average person to ChatGPT is the best bright spot, and OpenAI successfully eating Google's search market. Their numbers there have been truly massive from the beginning, and are I think the most defensible. Google AI Overviews continue to be completely awful in comparison.
ah snap, didn't know it was a dupe. Now I've hidden it, tx
So, ChatGPT-like tools are accelerating(/or locking in) the decline of community sites like Stack Overflow, which used to be an indispensable tool for both junior developers to troubleshoot issues and also technology builders to see where users were hitting pain points with your tech (so they could improve it).
A couple of major ramifications from its decline:
#1 (the bigger one): The decline of Stack Overflow-like sites will (imo) degrade or cap the quality of ChatGPT tools themselves on questions pertaining to code post-2022. I doubt that advances like "reasoning" or other AI breakthroughs are going to fully make up for the oncoming draught of quality training data. Sites like SO were a crutch that companies who underinvested in documentation leaned on (their attitude essentially being: "we've done enough, let the coders figure it out amongst themselves, b/c it works"). I doubt companies are going to suddenly realize they need to invest more in solid docs (for both the developers and AI companies). -- While many initially saw this coming (AI killing the web it trained on), now we have pretty dramatic data show that has happened.
#2: questions about new technologies and their shortcomings will be asked in the dark, giving AI companies valuable data that used to otherwise exist in public forums. Among other things, this will make it harder for tech-builders to know what to improve, therefore preventing it from improving as quickly, and keeping people more reliant on AI tools for troubleshooting. This seems to be another example of AI companies _creating_ problems that they are best positioned to "solve".
That's a fair point, and it's your call - however, if the new (major) development is covered in this way then 1) users on the front page won't see mention of it at headline level and 2) the discussion of that development on HN will be affected by/limited to the time-decay of a post that is 12 hours older. I understand that there are tradeoffs at play, it really comes down to if the development at hand is big-enough to justify another post, and, again, that's your call.
Ah good, so one was finally not marked Dupe or Dead. I believe even that thread was marked 'dead' for the first 50 minutes or so
This is new reporting that a hacker has breached TeleMessage, the parent company of TM SGNL and other modified chat apps. The breach includes live data being passed across servers in production.
There is new reporting that a hacker has breached the parent company, TeleMessage, including live data being passed across servers in production.
https://www.404media.co/the-signal-clone-the-trump-admin-use...
It was marked as a DUPE of this discussion, despite being a major new development https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43890034 Hopefully that decision can be reconsidered