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sindriava

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Gemini 3 8 months ago

You seem very comfortable making unfounded claims. I don't think this is very constructive or adds much to the discussion. While we can debate the stylistic changes of the previous commenter, you seem to be discounting the rate at which the writing style of various LLMs has backpropagated into many peoples' brains.

ChatGPT Atlas 9 months ago

LLMs have already hit their limits

This is the most profoundly idiotic sentiment to ever come out of the AI discourse. Not only has it been sung for so long that it's been proven wrong mutliple times now, it also pulls the strawman of the century because NO ONE working in frontier AI labs is pushing the narrative that "we don't need anything to change to reach AGI". You can stick your head in the sand all you want, progress is happening and it's not slowing down as of yet. Your knowledge of AI being limited to talking to chatbots doesn't change a thing.

ChatGPT Atlas 9 months ago

Take this attitude somewhere else, this isn't Reddit.

To set the record straight:

- "CoT reasoning- stolen from Chinese AI labs" I should really hope this point doesn't need correcting. Accusing anyone from stealing of stealing from "Chinese AI labs" is laughable at this point.

- "Codex is a ripoff of Claude Code" Claude Code wasn't the first CLI agent and you could just as easily "accuse" Anthropic of stealing the idea of chatting with an LLM from OpenAI.

- "Sora is a low quality clone of Google’s Veo3." Do you realize video models existed BEFORE you were born, which was apparently yesterday?

- "another Perplexity ripoff." Wait until you hear how Perplexity came to be.

Current systems are already tremendously useful in the medical field. And I'm not talking about your doctor asking ChatGPT random shit, I'm saying radiology results processing, patient monitoring, monitoring of medication studies... The list goes on. Not to mention many of the research advances done using automated systems already, for example for weather forecasting.

This is likely a byproduct of us being too comfortable now. Not in the "you've got nothing real to worry about!" boomer rethoric kind of way, but in the sense that our baseline for reward has shifted a bit higher. So trauma can still present a very strong negative RL signal, while positive RL signals of similar magnitude become rarer.

Rich coming from the guy who moved his muscles until sounds came out.

Also next time you should bother to at least copy paste your questions into any recent LLM, since they can all solve it without issue. But hallucations like this are common with non-reasoning HN users.

The Last Programmers? 11 months ago

So just to be clear when you mention "AI" you're mostly talking about LLMs right? Since most of these don't apply to expert systems.

The Last Programmers? 11 months ago

Could you describe in what way do you find the current paradigms "new" or what unsolved issues you're talking about?

I Am An AI Hater 11 months ago

I can't speak for you but I'm certainly not qualified to opine on the predictions so I won't address the 20% figure since I don't find it relevant.

data centers account for 1% to 2% of overall global energy demand

So does the mining industry. Part of that data center consumption is the discussion we are having right now.

I find that in general energy doesn't tend to get spent unless there's something to be gained from it. Note that providing something that uses energy but doesn't provide value isn't a counterexample for this, since the greater goal of civilization seems to be discovering valuable parts of the state space, which necessitates visiting suboptimal states absent a clairvoyant heuristic.

I reject the statement that energy use is bad in principle and pending a more detailed ROI analysis of this, I think this branch of the topic has ran its course, at least for me :)

I Am An AI Hater 11 months ago

Huh, my search is also turning up nothing. I could swear I heard a story about cauliflower originally being yellow and getting replaced with the white cultivar due to the guy who grew it marketing it as "arsenic-free" cauliflower despite the fact that the yellow one had no arsenic to begin with. Either I'm getting Mandela effected or I'm hallucinating -- which of course only AI models are capable of ;)

I Am An AI Hater 11 months ago

Do you honestly expect anyone to believe you're trying to take part in a discussion with that last statement? I appreciate this topic has your emotions running hot, but this is HN, not Reddit. Please leave that kind of talk at the door.

I Am An AI Hater 11 months ago

They might be rational, but taking things out of context as much as happens with any AI / environment narrative gives off a strong "arsenic-free cauliflower" smell.

I Am An AI Hater 11 months ago

Comparing a general technology (AI) to a specific company (Groupon) is a category error. To your point coupons still exist and people use them and Anthropic might not exist in 2 years while AI will.

I Am An AI Hater 11 months ago

I appreciate this response. The environmental impact is such a red herring it's not even funny. Somehow these statements never include the impact of watching Netflix shows or doing data processing manually.

I Am An AI Hater 11 months ago

I became a hater by doing precisely those things AI cannot do: reading and understanding human language; thinking and reasoning about ideas; considering the meaning of my words and their context;

With this the article lost all seriousness for me. I may be on board with a lot of what you are saying, but pretending you know the answer to these questions just makes you look as idiotic as anyone who says the opposite.