siltcakes

Steinbeck isn’t a Palestinian name.

What happened is that Zionists showed up and started murdering families and stealing land. The fictional Zionist “history” is no longer sellable.

I don’t agree with everything you’re saying but appreciate the level headed thinking. Thanks for that.

Do most people see nuance with the Nazis? I suggest you talk to some Gen Z people as they most definitely view Zionists as Nazi equivalent. A view I think most of the non-Western world also holds.

Zionists committed the ethnic cleansing and invasion of Palestine. I invite anyone to click the link and read for themselves.

Yes, the Nakba is ongoing.

All the violence in the region stems from the Zionist invasion, land theft and genocide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

Yes, it actually was and is the Israelis:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

Palestinians have every right to resist occupation.

Being against genocide and land theft is the correct side obviously.

And think about how absurd it would be for anyone on the planet to go murder Africans and steal their land under the guise of it being our “homeland”. Sadly that has happened, but they didn’t bother to use that excuse.

Yes, they have successfully resisted Zionist invasion.

Palestinians are native to Palestine. Judea and Arabia do not exist.

Sure:

In a diary entry from June 12, 1895, Herzl detailed his plan: "We shall try to spirit the penniless [Palestinian] population across the border by denying it any employment in our own country... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly".

Most people on the planet view this as a black and white issue. Zionists are the modern day Nazis and I don't see a lot of sympathy for them.

You need to take into account that Zionists are aging out of the population. The younger generations in the West absolutely support military action against Israel. If it was taken by force, it can be returned by force. I would definitely support US military action against Israel to defeat Zionism.

Zionists are the Nazis in this scenario, and yes we will ultimately defeat them.

Judea does not exist. If you’re talking about Palestine, very few Jews are from there pre-dating Zionist invasion.

Judaism is a religion. Jews are from all over the place. Almost none from Palestine.

I’m speaking historically, not ironically.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun

Returning land to the people it was brutally taken from is not “ethic cleansing”. The right of return is still valid.

Going against everyone in your industry is contrarian. There are countless threads where Masad is attacked by mainstream venture capitalists and called "antisemitic" or "terrorist". Same with paulg.

Ashkenazis are Europeans.

I don't understand this comment. Are you saying that Masad is not assimilated into the US because he doesn't support Israel's genocide against his people? Israel is not the US and supporting it is an increasingly unpopular position in the US. If anything he's more assimilated due to his position.

Zionists aren't indigenous to Palestine and have no right to that land.

Palestinians are the indigenous people to the land who were ethnically cleansed via Nakba. It's not "nationalism" to allow people to return to the land that was stolen from them.

He and Paul Graham, truly are the only people speaking out against Zionism though. The rest of the VC industry is either staunchly pro-Israel or silent on the matter.

My opinion on him shifted because along with Paul Graham, they're the only tech leaders who have stood up for Palestinians. I don't agree with Graham on everything either, but I've gained a lot of respect for him speaking out against Zionism. They're rich, but it still is difficult to go against the entire venture capital industry to do the right thing.

Israel is not, and never has been our ally.

Ironically there have been much larger real protests in Israel. Zionism has become completely unstable. The good news is that means it's close to failing, the bad news is that it will become even more desperate and violent as it perishes.

I agree, if you contrast what Iran has done with literally any Israel/US act of aggression, it's very clear to see who is operating within the rules of human rights and who is not. I too hope Iran takes off the gloves in round two.

Unintentional but apt nonetheless!