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bloated Electron apps that just about everyone on the planet has installed on their computers

i guess im the one guy left that has neither

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i dont know what all the hype is with gemini 2.5, at least the currently running instance. from my experience at least in conversation mode, it cannot remember my instructions to avoid apologies and similar platitudes from either the “persona”, personal instructions, or from ine message to the next.

saw this post last night and tbh thought it a bit weird since initially it was described by author as “alternative to emailing yourself” - like, really? after 20 years of dropbox? the countless competitors it spawned, including OSS as well as by all major email providers???

came back curious to see if the discussion took a different direction from besides sarcasm or another 30 posts saying “why not syncthing?” - glad to see the couple to comments including OP and yours as constructive.

that being said, i’m a syncthing user, including running my own (st) discovery server on openwrt. aside from some annoyance at rather frequent conflicts and being browser based, im running it on all 5 major OSs, including ios (mobius sync) and android.

i strongly disagree that running it on a phone is a pain, and in fact, found it the most reliable and versatile sync solution for ios by far - and that includes icloud, dropbox, google drive and google photos.

the only thing that comes close is apple photos, but that’s specifically for photos. and that too, only because of the deep os integration, ie always running in the background and allowing seamless access to older photos that are not on device. even then, there’s always a mysterious slight difference in # of items reported on the mac vs the phone - “eventual consistency”, where “eventual” is t=infinity i suppose.

i was replying to “install your preferred editor on the remote” - without syncing your config, you might as well just use vim even if it’s not your favorite.

most of my remote editing fits into your description. of course, if you’re not an emacs user, you likely won’t find much value in tramp, magit, org-mode, dired, ediff, eshell, etc

installing an editor on the remote sure works - my mention of vim was not an accident, it is my preferred remote editor. some of us are bitextual ;-) - but then you lose the seamless remote+local editing, need to sync your config, potentially clash with someone else’s (ever ssh into ubuntu@awshost?), take special care not to sync any private stuff, etc.

as for sftp, unfortunately that’s not an option if you happen to use windows locally eg for work reasons, nor if you use a mac as of several years now, since fuse became closed source.

not to mention, again, the fact that you are limited to whatever root you decided to mount, limited to editing as a user that i’ve already mentioned, as well as limited from using remote tools as sibling stated. try making a git commit over sftp.

if you have a focused “working on a project” workflow it may work, otherwise PITA

tramp is great. all the other mentioned solutions are nowhere near as seamless for “just do what i want, without distractions”.

vscode? “trust me bro, i will run a networked daemon on your server”. enjoy wondering which plugins to reinstall on your remote. enjoy installing proprietary shareware+telemetry plugins just to use git. try opening a local file and a remote file side by side in the same window. wifi connection broke for a sec? oops, you have to refresh the whole browser window.

want to edit a single file on a host you rarely connect to? enjoy spending 10 minutes setting up autosync solutions.

with any of the above - oops, you actually need sudo for that file in /etc? yeah, drop to shell and edit in vim.

there are other options to do stuff and for very specific predefined workflows they may win, but the versatility of tramp is still unmatched, especially if you do use emacs.

the only times ive had issues is when i have a weird shell setup on the remote - for that there is /sshx: instead of /ssh:

haven’t used claude code directly, but at least through copilot ive seen it read my makefile, extract the command, and run it directly after modifications. telling it to use make helped, but wasn’t perfect

im sorry to say, i think this boat has sailed. it is already widely used as you fear. to me it seems like the best scenario is to go along and try to at least make it a force of good

warc is not a panacea; for example, gemini makes it super annoying to get a transcript of your conversation, so i started saving those as pdf and warc.

turns out that unlike most webpages, the pdf version is only a single page of what is visible on screen.

turns out also that opening the warc immediately triggers a js redirect that is planted in the page. i can still extract the text manually - it’s embedded there - but i cannot “just open” the warc in my browser and expect an offline “archive” version - im interacting with a live webpage! this sucks from all sides - usability, privacy, security.

Admittedly, i don’t use webrecorder - does it solve this problem? did you verify?

i was considering a similar setup, but i don’t really trust extensions. Im curious;

- Do you also archive logged in pages, infinite scrollers, banking sites, fb etc? - How many entries is that? - How often do you go back to the archive? is stuff easy to find? - do you have any organization or additional process (eg bookmarks)?

did you try integrating it with llms/rag etc yet?

i played a lot with the recent wave of tools. it was extremely easy to get system prompts and all the internal tokens from all providers.

i also experimented with letting the llm run wild in a codespace - there is a simple setting to let it autoaccept an unlimited amount of actions. i have no sensitive private repos and i rotated my tokens after.

observations: 1. i was fairly consistently successful in making it make and push git commits on my behalf. 2. i was successful at having it add a gh action on my behalf, that runs for every commit. 3. ive seen it use random niche libraries on projects. 4. ive seen it make calls to urls that were obviously planted; eg instead of making a request to “example.com” it would call “example.lol”, despite explicit instructions. (i changed the domains to avoid giving publicity to bad actors). 5. ive seen some surprisingly clever/resourceful debugging from some of the assistants. eg running and correctly diagnosing strace output, as well as piping output to a file and then reading the file when it couldnt get the output otherwise from the tool call. 6. ive had instances of generated code with convincingly real looking api keys. i did not check if they worked.

Combine this with the recent gitlab leak[0]. Welcome to XSS 3.0, we are at the dawn of a new age of hacker heaven, if we weren’t in one before.

No amount of double ratcheting ala [1] will save us. For an assistant to be useful, it needs to make decisions based on actual data. if it scanned the data, you can’t trust it anymore.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44070626

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43733683

my absolute favorite feature of dired is rw mode (^x ^q) - edit your dir like a normal text file. use regex replacement, macros with counters, multi cursor - whatever you like. See the result of your edits, commit bam. much more fun than piping find through something