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Goodbye Freenode 5 years ago

They basically just nuked the whole thing. I had my nick for over 17 years and was kind of clinging to it...just pathetic.

Goodbye Freenode 5 years ago

I am so fucking pissed off. I've had my nick for 17 years -- 17 fucking years on freenode -- all gone because a toddler chose to have a meltdown.

I initially thought "oh, another guy whining" but this seems to not be the case here but rather a case of a really piss-poor code of conduct.

Because this isn't a case of a codes of conduct being universally bad, but rather a case of one instance of it being bad. A GOOD code of conduct will be specific and lay out what is acceptable without vagueness.

Except it wasn't harassment -- guess what? People can say you're wrong. Check your ego at the door if you give a public talk. They shouldn't say "he's a fucking idiot" but saying "I feel that got X,Y, and Z wrong and here's why:" is not a fucking CoC violation. I support codes of conduct and always will but this is where things went topsy-turvy, do not try to roll your own and try to be specific.

I support codes of conduct but this is EXACTLY the thing that opponents point to when they oppose them. I expected this post to be a rant against codes of conduct and instead it wound up leaving me wondering if NumFOCUS and JupyterCon was in the wrong here...this guy offered criticism and that is NOT a fucking violation of ANY CoC -- if you can't handle criticism, don't make public statements. The hilarious is that Joel Grus didn't care -- like what the hell...this is why sometimes I feel like proponents of CoCs are at times their own worst enemy when it comes to attaining wide support for them.

You do realize that bad habits tend to not die, right? Don't teach bad practices because you're targeting newbies...teach them the best practices from the start.

Can Indian companies actually just hire competent devs rather than trying to push their devs to misrepresent their experience level, please?

It's really doing a disservice to Indians who are actually competent and giving companies that employ Indians a bad name...it's not good.