rationalist

FWIW, the Catholic Church and the other Church I go to, both require training on how to prevent abuse, sexual and otherwise, towards children, if you're in a ministry that works with children. That's why their rates of abuse are lower than other institutions such as schools.

No, I'm not going to call you a liar since you didn't specify the Boy Scouts of America and there are 100+ Scouting programs in different countries across the world.

The Boy Scouts of America program has only been in English until just last year (they just released the Spanish version of their Handbook last year, and now they have a Mandarin version too). Anyone who doesn't know the world "Scoutmaster" and claims to have been in the Boy Scouts of America, is very odd... I'm only calling those people liars.

Holy moly. If you thought I was calling you a liar, perhaps you should stop posting. But if you want to continue to grind your ax, since you asked me a question, I'll ask you one: do you have a bias?

you just applied waaaay more effort than it would have taken.

I have no idea what you mean by that. I'm guessing it's some kind of jab that didn't land.

as a parent it becomes part of your risk assessment when deciding if you want your kid to become an altar boy.

"Timmy, remember when I told you that you should keep your private parts private, to only let the doctor touch them while wearing gloves during at the doctor's office, and to let me know if anyone touches them, tries to touch them, stares at them, or asks to see or touch them; to let me know right? That still stands. The robe goes over your clothes, you don't need to undress at church or at school. And do you remember how if someone tells you to keep a secret from me, and it's not something like a birthday surprise for me, that you should tell me. God is not going to be mad at you if you do what's right, God will be mad at someone if they try to take advantage of you, no matter what their position is."

Yes, everything has a risk assessment. Singling out a more rare risk shows that you have a bias. It has been very obvious for a while that you and a few other users have a bias. I don't know why, but I hope you heal or get better/smarter.

Being ganged up on by you all is tiring. Anyone who doesn't have a bias can see this comment chain for what it is. I'm going to move on with my life, and if you want to be happier with your lot, you should too.

Best regards, rationalist

Flat earthers do not believe the world is round, yet it is. Feel free to read my comment I posted hours ago, with a link.

Wow, you all do not stop. You've been grinding your ax so long now, it could cut a hair. If you were a Scout, you would know your ax should not be that sharp.

Okay, nevermind then.

just give the receipts.

Just read my last comment I posted two hours before you posted yours?

you’re ignoring as well.

You're assuming facts not in evidence.

We could say that rate should be examined per hour because a kid will spend 30 hours per week at school vs...

"Don't worry Timmy, even though you were molested at school, because you're forced to go there every (week)day and spend more time there than church, Boy Scouts, etc, you statistically had less of a chance per hour of being molested."

Per hour makes zero sense.

Do you have something against churches or scouts? I can't imagine why you are being ao convoluted otherwise.

Nobody is “gaslighting” you, just give the receipts.

I already gave the "receipts". Stop trying to gaslight me.

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FYI everyone else: the Boy Scouts has a "two deep" leadership policy, meaning no private one-on-one contact between youth and adults. That's why 90+% of cases were from over 50 years ago. And don't believe everything you read on reddit, because I saw one comment where someone claimed they were abused as a kid by their troop manager... No one who actually was a Scout would call their Scoutmaster a "troop manager". It almost certainly was someone who was ideologically opposed to Boy Scouts. (If someone can teach me how to use reddit's aweful search function to find that comment, I'll gladly provide that "receipt".)

Another HN user suggested a bike that costs $650, almost three times what the Tesla bike costs. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49003333

So no, I would not consider $225 "completely insane".

Disclaimer: I have no ties with, financial interest in, or own any products of Tesla.

he will never produce an actual figure.

It's strange to throw out a completely fictitious figure and then lament it as if it's real.

You two are insufferable.

Anyway:

If you do an online search, the first results you may get, say how hard it is to compare. Here is one comparison that I did find:

https://actheologian.com/2025/04/22/comparing-child-abuse-ra...

Please note, this is not where I got my figures years ago, as I no longer have access to that source.

Public Schools ~450 per 100,000

Boy Scouts ~100–200 per 100,000

Protestant Churches Likely 1–5 per 100,000

Catholic Church (Priests Only) ~1 per 100,000

Also note, something like 90% of the Boy Scout sexual abuse cases were prior to the 1970s before they started mandating adults to take youth protection training. Today, the Boy Scouts and Catholic Church have some of the most comprehensive youth protection traing around, way better than any schools' youth protection training according to educators that I've talked with.

Good riddance. Go sharpen your ideological axes somewhere else.

Some HN users probably are, but not all, and I doubt not a majority. A majority might not be religious, but not being religious does not automatically mean anti-religion. There are occasionally comments that show an espousal of a god that do get upvotes.

Calling someone's god, an "imaginary friend" is probably a trait of someone very anti-religious though. I haven't read all the different religious texts, but I highly doubt any of them call their god a friend. Perhaps Jesus could be considered friendly, but I don't think the Bible says that a Christian must consider Jesus as their friend. I think it's more like how parents should be parents and not friends. I imagine in most if not all relgions, gods should be gods and not friends.

something like

I thought adding "for example" at the end was just unnecessary redundancy, but I guess I was wrong.

I still don't understand why the other person is trying to cross-examine me on the definition of "rate" or whatever though. That is the person arguing semantics, not me... (Same with you, except you're going one step further and trying to gaslight me.)

I'm curious, do you have something against churches and/or Scouts?

This also included who is allowed to see you naked and/or touch your private parts. They also explained how to get help if someone what touching you inappropriately. That effort seems pretty active to me.

My school did not cover that (but at least my parents did).

I've never heard anyone say that a rate is ambiguous.

It seems like you're trying to be disingenuous, first with "rate", now with my clearly-arbitrary example of rate.

something like

KMP or VoL

I'm aftaid of putting those terms in my search engine, can you please expand those acronyms?

rates

So something like 1 per 100,000; which of course is still 1 too many.

(The other comments in other branches seem to prove my point. I am not defending any institution by the way. No one should be covering up crimes and/or allowing criminals to victimize people further.)

ones who have been involved in abuse scandals in the past (Churches, Scouts, etc)

And those groups still have lower rates of abuse than Schools which do a lot less training and enforcement of youth protection policies.

Children are still safer in Scouts and churches than in schools.

Just about every kid goes to school though, so people just prefer to sweep that under the rug and focus on targeting organizations they are not a part of or disagree with because they're easier to demonize and make fun of.

I work with kids, and I've had to take the Scouts and Catholic Church's youth protection training. They are both free to take online if anyone wants to check it out.

It seems like future victims of Eminent Domain can point to this to defend their property.

You can certainly do so, such as waiving the right to a jury trial.

You're not allowed to speak the truth against group think.

For many people, their emotions are more important than being rational.

First thing I did with my truck is get a spray-in bed liner.

Slate was $50.

Their website says body on frame.

True, not everyone goes camping or does their own hauling, repairing, etc.

Probably. Also, if I/we don't buy version one, there may not be a version two.

Hopefully version two is rechargeable.

This is version one, I'm not particularly worried as I will probably upgrade to version two by the time the battery runs out.

Yep, if the number is not in my comtacts, it goes straight to voicemail.

I'm not sure I've ever noticed a swastika in a QR code before, but I guess better safe than sorry.

I've noticed that my upvotes and downvotes do not appear to affect comments like they used to, or at least there is now a delayed reaction to where I don't know if it's me or someone else voting.

I use Mullvad.

only 1/4 hispanic

If you mean only one grandparent is born in a Latin American country, then according to the U.S. Census Bureau, you are Hispanic.

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