pyrodactyl

Do you think location based pay aligns with Gitlab's values?

There are multiple issues with GitLab as a company. They pay their staff based on location and not the output of their work which is in direct contradiction of their values of "Results" and "Diversity, Inclusivity and Belonging".

And how the location factors are decided is not shared with the staff, just vague hand waving of industry averages. This again is again in contradiction with their "transparency" value.

I can point out a lot more things. They might be transparent, but are not above exploiting folks from weaker economies.

The URL is supposed to be https://growrk.com/blogs/news/location-based-pay/, anyone knows why/how was it truncated?

No. Their prices are not adjusted for local market rates because their reasons only make sense when paying their employees.

Why we pay local rates?

Team members in high-wage regions having much less discretionary income than ones in low-wage countries with the same role.

I get exactly 45% percent of SF rates. Just to be clear, this is an international company

A comparable sized property listing https://www.nobroker.in/property/buy/4-bhk-apartment-for-sal...

For electronics and vehicles you are free to google iphone and mercedes prices in India vs Us. Its especially higher if I want specific items to import like framework laptop, fairphone, tesla car

Private education can get very expensive very quickly too. Public schools are not even an option as they don't even have furniture sometimes.

You might say remaining costs are low, but they are low only if we use uncertified, unskilled, low quality services/labor. For even decent quality of work the prices will be in multiples.

About my comment about being payed half, the pay scales are visible to everyone in the company so I know that the least in the US also gets payed 2x of my location

I am the original poster from the post linked in this article.

I know these as a fact that a comparable property in my city would cost me much more than what you're paying. All the while I'm getting payed less than half of my colleagues living in your area.

And there are many other costs that are comparable eg. electronics, vehicles and education.

All this is to say that location based pay is not about cost of living, its about getting away with paying as little as possible.

Thanks for this, helps me that people understand me and I'm not being very unreasonable.

From what I've gotten from my discussions on my post is

1) I will start looking for contract work. Not going to be easy, but the best way forward.

2) Use some of the negotiation techniques mentioned like bringing up the fact I'm not competing locally, but internationally

3) Negotiate with my company and threaten to leave? Not fully sure of this. More alligend to leaving anyway as I find the excuses for location based pay pathetic. Will be leaving as soon as I can.

4) Always talk compensation with co-workers

"Having a presence and hence a team in another location with a pyrodactyl-like employee doing pyrodactyl-like things. Probably quite a lot."

Though this is absolutely true for traditional companies, this company is actually a fully remote one so they don't have a presence as such? I would just be wfh but in a foreign country? I still don't see the point in my perticular case

Well the product this company makes is uniformly priced across all locations. So if i wanted to consume the product my company makes I would be paying the same price as US/UK.

Haha, this seems important but I don't fully understand what you're saying. Will need sometime to process this.

I work for a software company that's product based BUT I'm not in a software role as some people are assuming

Great advice on negotiation. I'll definitely use this going forward. Thank you!

Its not a crazy conspiracy, I know it's pretty clear why it's being done. And I know I can't do anything about it other than look for new opportunities.

But should location based pay be just accepted because that's the norm? There are variables that can't be used to do discriminate like age, gender, race, sexual orientation etc. We've accepted equal pay for equal work in these cases. Is it that far fetched that even location should be treated the same?

Definitely a time for change, but that doesn't invalidate my argument about equal pay

I agree that these are blatant lies. Unionizing seems impossible? I'm not sure what it entails and how would one even go about it.

Someone else mentioned about taking up contract work, which seems like something I can give a shot at.

Immigration is not currently possible. I'm still quite new to the work force so i guess I'm being easily affected by these thoughts.

The contracter route seems feasible and actionable. I'll give this a serious shot. Thanks for bringing this up.

I see that my post might come off as complaining, but I asure you it's not the case. I do "hustle" as you call it, and that's why I wanted to know other opinions on this.

And I'm not coming at this from a class based marxist ideology. I'm asking for equal pay for equal work, which isn't a radical idea.

Also, though I do work in a software company, I am not a developer or deal with serious tech in anyway.

Talking compensation has opened my eyes to this. We need to stop this culture of being secretive about compensation.

Honestly, I'm very conflicted about this.

My issue is not directly with my salary. It's more with the fact the I'm being payed less when compared to my peers in other locations while I'm doing the same/more work.

Location doesn't influence output, why should it influence the pay scale?

And they have publically published those lies like it's something to be proud of? Reading the link my manager shared with me about these reasons, which is publically accessible, made me want to puke.

Quiet firing as it is being referred to if I'm not wrong. And it is working.

Thanks for verbalizing this so well, I've been thinking the same recently and that's what's causing me to withdraw from my work.

Sorry I forgot to mention that I'm not from America, so moving there or to EU would increase my pay.