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This doesn't make any sense at all. Every one has different reasons for wanting most products. It's this nuance that is at the foundation of the entire field of marketing, and finding appeal for any product in the marketplace.

There are products that are extremely niche that serve very specific purposes that are considered very successful, and there are products that serve very broad appeal across a wide subsection of the population that by all metrics would be considered "failed" (e.g. loss leaders).

The mere fact that you can walk into most restaurants or grocery stores and see an explosion of plant-based alternatives, and that the meat industry itself has been one of the main investors in this space should provide all of the evidence that is contrary to the point you're making.

This article is, quite frankly, an author in search of a specific narrative.

The article is pushing a narrative. Every once and awhile these flair up, since there's a lot of scared people in the traditional meat/dairy industries right now, since they're losing counter/shelf space in supermarkets and menu options in restaurants all over the world.

I'm not sure if the author has stepped into a grocery store recently, but they're entire aisles/half-aisles dedicated to just plant-based options now, which was unheard of 25 years ago when I originally went vegan.

Hanging the success of an entire movement and industry on two of the most recent entrants to the market seems like a very skewed metric to base your opinion on when the evidence to the contract is absolutely everywhere if you want to look for it or notice it.

The fact that they're not is telling.

Yeah, this is the issue that most people seem to miss. It's not the flavour that is the issue, which is why products that attempt to replicate it are successful with vegans/vegetarians.

What we find abhorrent is that a living, sentient being had to be raised and slaughtered in mostly inhumane conditions, in a supply chain that is evil to humans and animals alike.

Removing that element from my diet is the goal, not the flavour. I don't understand why this is so hard for some people to understand.

You keep throwing "plausible deniability" around, thinking that is what is happening here.

You're assuming that the decision is someone selecting a candidate solely based on their race, when it is far far more nuanced than that. For Ivy's, the pool of candidates is so unbelievably large to available spots, that they look at hundreds of different data points when evaluating candidates, and they weight certain ones higher/lower depending on the criteria set by the faculty and institutional goals.

If the goal of the institution is to have a student body that is more representative of the overall population, this isn't "plausible deniability" it is the institution attempting to prepare their students for the real world.

Prior to affirmative action (and it's not perfect by any means) these institutions were overrun with white men, and our society has still not course corrected from the overwhelming benefit that afforded that specific class of people.

I fail to see how taking two students, one from an afluent area who happens to be white, and one from a less affluent area, with fewer advantages, but the latter scored at or near the former candidate and has nearly the same extra-curriculars, volunteer experience etc. is such a bad thing. Your "plausible deniability" is really just a lazy way of saying that you would prefer purely "objective" bias when it comes to evaluating students, but the world is not purely objective, and I think we're better served with a bit more subjective consideration when we're allocating scarce resources that have traditionally benefitted (significantly) one class/race over another.

https://www.amazon.ca/Lyndon-Johnson-American-Dream-Presiden...

It's easy to like it when it provides you the outcome that you're favourable towards. For people, the majority in this case (as evidence by the popular vote count), who do not agree with these outcomes, federalism is a fucking mess.

In no way it makes sense that the Senate should wield the power it has when South Dakota has the same weight as California. It's ludicrous.

As others have said, I'm not sure the environment impact is different between 1-2 days vs. a week. In terms of fuel costs etc. Maybe travelling by ship instead of air, or on long haul might affect this though.

I'm more concerned about the human toll on the rapid delivery tbh. As someone joked, I created a prime order that sets off a rube goldbert level of dystopian suffering for a number of humans, just so I get a product at my door that I could have picked up from a local retailer in under an hour.

That's my bigger concern.

I can't believe this asshole is spending billions so that Trump can get his Twitter account back.

They did just win a pullitzer for their international reporting last year. I'd say that goes quite a way towards improving their reputation.

As others mentioned, my experience is the opposite. I'm on Mac, and I forced myself to ditch Chrome due to privacy concerns and, honestly, I don't miss it at all.

Occasionally, I have to fire it up to test something for work, or if a site doesn't support Firefox (it's 2022 devs, come on). And, each time it reminds me of why I prefer Firefox. It seems so bulky in comparison, and everything seems to slowdown with it open, where Firefox just happily stays open in the background, w/multiple windows and tabs and rarely causes any issues.

Give it a shot again if it's been awhile, it's great.

Again, a quick google search shows thousands of articles that specifically tie antifa to the riots in Portland.

The media did not ignore it at all. If anything, I'd believe that tie-in with "antifa" is greatly exagerrated by the media, since it seems like the situation in Portland is better explained via the horrible police escalation that happened there and the fact that there's a variety of groups that jumped into the vacuum.

You do know that they're in vehicles that they're moving in and out of the city, correct? It's not like they're all just parked in one spot and staying there the entire time.

Unlike people with fixed addresses, they can just up and move to a quiet part of the city to sleep, and then drive back after.

If they actually have anything to do with the mandates, then protesting in Ottawa doesn't make any sense.

All of the health and COVID mandate policy is set at the provincial level in Canada, not federally. They should be protesting in Toronto, or other provincial capitals.

However, a good percentage of provincial capitals are currently Conservative governments. So, by deliberatly choosing Ottawa, they're protesting legitimately elected government to force them to step down (despite being democratically elected 6 months ago) and install a new leadership panel made up of the convoy leadership.

https://twitter.com/Justin_Ling/status/1490811201089159170

The original comment was mentioning the downvotes, not comments. I agree on engaging comments (hence this conversation) but there's definitely brigading happening with votes if you post anything that the libertarians disagree with.

My mistake. In my first comment, I should have referred to the truck convoy protesters as perceiving themselves as having minority status. I made this comment before people starting to compare these protests to BLM, which is for a an actual minority group.

Getting fired for not getting vaccines was a line that I didn't agree with.

However, the vast majority of organizations that did this were private though, and it was the organization that implemented these policies. I'd hardly equate that with government overreach, and especially not the federal government if you're a nurse/healthcare worker, or worked in a local municipal government.

My point is that these protests don't have anything to do with vaccines, mandates or some perceived minority status that not following them bestows (which, again, is a choice..). If that was the case, they would not be in Ottawa. There might be some people paying lip service to these ideas, but the majority of the people protesting are self-labelling as minorities due to some perception of tyranny from the federal government that does not exist.

Unless you're a federal employee that was fired due to your position on vaccines (over 95% of federal employees are vaccinated) then protesting in Ottawa doesn't make any sense.

I don't live in Quebec or have any knowledge of what is happening in that province, but this either sounds like there are mitigating situations that we're not aware of for this reaction, or an overreach by some board/school.

In Ontario, we were asked to isolate at home if there was any close contact with COVID at school and use remote learning if it was available for your class.

Hahaha.. this is a hilarious comment.

These people are not the minority. They're self-professed victimes of so-called tyranny that doesn't exist. The sheer fact that they're able to protest for this long, in this way, at the nations capital is ample evidence that this so-called tyranny they're fighting is a delusion.

Equivocating that with the lived experience of millions of people who are fighting for true equality is truly a laughable position.

Honk, I guess.

Not much media coverage? I saw coverage of it all the time. It was covered as if it was the end of civilization and it continues to push the narrative today that BLM protests were burning cities to the ground across the country.

I'm not sure where you're getting this whole idea that there wasn't much media coverage on it. A quick google search shows literally thousands of news stories about it.

Yeah, I have 5 nieces and nephews and friends with kids that live and around Hamilton. Tell me what they're going through that's insane.

Don't just drop comments like this without backing up your assertions, because it's false. Is it ideal for the kids right now? Fuck no. None of us want this. But to sell the narrative that there's a whole class of parents/teachers/administrators who are not trying their goddamned hardest to make this as easy on kids as possible, while stradling the line of what's responsible during a pandemic, is just belittling all of the effort being done for no discernable purpose at all.

Unless there's some crazy school board out there, there's no way they have kids eating outside when it's -20. Most school boards won't even have outdoor recess on days like that.

I have 11 nieces and nephews in 5 different school boards in Ontario, and not one of them has these restrictions. They eat indoors, they can take their masks off at lunch, and during gym class. Their teachers regularly post videos for students to watch, with their masks off, so that they can have that level of interaction with their students.

We still do play dates with kids too. And birthday parties, where we can opt to go maskless if everyone is tested and comfortable with it.

They're honking for 16-18 hours per day. For people that live near the convoy, they've been able to sleep for over two weeks due to this. I have friends and family affected by this. I'm fairly sure this constitutes torture if you don't have the resources to up and leave your residence for days at a time in order to sleep.

I've said this before. There's a strong libertarian bent to HN and I'm not surprised if there's a large contingent of this site that actively supports the convoy. There's people here that are strong supports of Peter Thiel, if that's any indication of where their sympathies lie.

But, most of them are not residents of Ottawa, and the lived experiences of people in that city, particurlarly those who have had run ins with the protesters, or struggled through the 16-18 hours / day of honking, had to walk around or be harrassed by them, see the awful imagery of Trump, Confederate etc. flags being waved around, the yellow star morons etc. cannot simply be dismissed as bad or inaccurate media.

A city is being held hostage by an extreme minority and, even in OPs post they mention that the Toronto police handled it properly, but question the admonition levied against the Ottawa police.

The Ottawa police are complicit in this now as well as city council. They sat on their hands while allowing this to spiral out of control, and now want to play the victim or blame others (e.g. blaming counter protesters today).

It doesn't matter if you side with the protest or not. The sheer fact that they've been allowed to have large impact on the city and it's residents, for this long, is proof that the so-called lack of freedom that they're fighting for is simply not the bogeyman they've made it out to be. Especially if you're white.

Or, we could return some of this farmland back to it's natural state, plant trees and build out our carbon sync capabilities.

Putting on some popcorn to watch this thread. HN loves discussions around veganism.

I've always pronounced it G-unicorn. As-in, say G first, then unicorn. Like Geeunicorn.

That's how I've heard others pronounce it too.

Agreed. It's also likely that the unvaxxed could be accounting for a greater part of the overall spread too. They tend to be sicker for longer, and given their anti-vax proclivities, will likely not wear masks and continue about their normal daily activities spreading it far and wide.

The same people who are vaccinated are the same ones who will likely isolate/mask-up if they catch the disease.

Idea here, not sure if this is available now or not, but something I was thinking about throughout COVID + restaurant industry.

They're a huge employer, particularly of some of the lowest paid sector. Why didn't the government consider tax subsidies to restaurants that kept 80-90% employees on to help keep food and other costs down?

If takeaway costs could have stayed the same or even lower, it would have pushed people to keep patronizing restaurants at the same level, and keep staff employed (re-purposed somewhat to support takeaway from in house service) but keep that tax revenue + light CERB load (this is in Canada) and the whole industry could have hopefully weathered this better.

Seems doable? Also, seems like a model that could be potententially used in other businesses too, particularly smaller ones.

There are years of clinical trials for mRNA vaccines, as well as a countless studies done on SARS-COV viruses.

This is just taking some existing technologies and knowledge of the vaccines and creating a new variant of what's been tested before.

Also, we know have well over a year's worth of data on millions of people to look at as well.

She used to be a consultant for a zero-waste company. I imagine she's very aware of these complexities.

It doesn't make it any less embarrassing for these organizations though. We should be expecting them to do better than this.