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Leading immediately to Russia invading Georgia in 2008

Encouraging Saakashvili to resolve Georgia's territorial issues by taking over breakaway republics of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. And then Russian intervened. [0]

who had no active efforts on either the Ukraine or NATO side toward NATO membership

The efforts were quite active during pro-Western president's rule and were halted by pro-Ukrainian president.

Ukraine threw out the Russia-aligned government

No, Yanukovich was thrown out by pro-Western coup 'mid-wifed' by the US. [1]

"The night before the clashes, Right Sector called on all of its members to ready themselves for a "peace offensive" on 18 February. <...> That morning, around 20,000 demonstrators marched on the parliament building as that body was set to consider opposition demands for a new constitution and government. Around 09:45, the demonstrators broke through the police barricade of several personnel-transport trucks near the building of the Central Officers' Club of Ukraine and pushed the cordon of police aside. The clashes started after some two dozen demonstrators moved a police vehicle blocking their path to parliament." [2]

Right Sector is "the right-wing, paramilitary confederation of several ultranationalist organizations" [3]

[0] https://www.reuters.com/article/world/georgia-started-war-wi...

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity#Protest_...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Sector

that’s why they acceded to Russia’s demand not offer Ukraine and Georgia Membership Action Plans in 2008

They did something worse:

While NATO consisted of twenty-seven allies, Bush knew that the Alliance was divided right down the middle on the issue. He understood MAP was controversial but he also had many leaders from NATO allies, largely but not only from Central and Eastern Europe, coming through the Oval Office that spring urging him to push for it. In Bush’s mind, the final decision would boil down to a handful of countries and personalities who held the key votes—himself, Merkel, and Sarkozy—and who would be decisive in shifting the debate one way or the other. Bush also sensed a fault line in the German position. While Merkel and Steinmeier both opposed MAP, they did so for very different reasons. In Bush’s mind, Merkel’s thinking was not driven by concern over Russia, which meant she could still be persuaded to move. She, too, believed in the advancement of democracy and freedom and was willing to stand up to Moscow. He hoped he could personally appeal to those instincts over the heads of those in her government who focused, too much, in his mind, on Moscow.

<...> Adamkus stepped in to echo B_sescu’s point: “Do we agree that these countries should become NATO members?” Merkel replied, “We agree on that. Where we don’t agree is on timing.” The response of the three presidents was immediate and spontaneous: “Then let’s write that down!”

<...> Listening to Merkel, the Central and Eastern European leaders sensed an opening. NATO had never before stated explicitly that a country would become a member. None of them had ever had such a pledge. Most of their Western European counterparts, in all likelihood, would never have suggested this approach. They doubted if Merkel’s foreign minister would have either, but he was not in the room. If Merkel agreed, it could be a major step forward. Merkel then took out her pen and wrote on a sheet of paper: “We agree today that Georgia and Ukraine shall one day become members of NATO.” After studying the wording, B_sescu said: “Madame Chancellor, in our part of the world saying ‘one day’ means nothing and does not commit you to anything—it means never.” Kaczy_ski chimed in: “Absolutely.” Merkel agreed to delete “one day” <...>

<...> British prime minister Gordon Brown leaned over to President Bush at the Council table and half-jokingly said, “I am not sure what we did here. I know we did not extend MAP. But I’m not sure we didn’t just make them members of NATO.”

The question now was how Russia would react—and whether Putin would keep his promise to Bush not to create a problem at the summit.

<...> Moscow’s very public goal had of course been to ensure that Georgia and Ukraine did not get MAP. Technically, of course, NATO had not given it to them. But these countries had received something that was arguably better and stronger—an explicit political promise from NATO heads of state that they would one day became members. That had never happened before.

<...> The Russian president was even tougher on Kiev—describing Ukraine as an artificial creation and a state whose final formation was not complete. He noted that large parts of Ukraine were dominated by ethnic Russians and had been given to Ukraine by Moscow in an arbitrary fashion under Stalin, and asked, “Who can say that we do not have interests there?” The issue of NATO membership, he claimed, could threaten the very existence of Ukraine. “We should act very, very carefully. We do not have a right to veto [such a decision] and we probably don’t even want one, but I want all of us to realize, when deciding such issues, that we have our interests there as well.” At the press conference afterwards, Putin was also polite, but he was clear in reaffirming his opposition to NATO enlargement. Russia viewed “the appearance of a powerful military bloc” on its borders “as a direct threat” to its security, he said. “The claim that this process is not directed against Russia will not suffice,” he continued. “National security is not based on promises.” [0]

[0] https://www.amazon.com/Little-War-That-Shook-World/dp/023061...

From your link:

"According to historian Bob Moore, although the repatriations did occur, Tolstoy's intention was to minimize the culpability of the Cossacks for having sided with the Nazis, and in doing so he had undertaken manipulation of the sources and made "outrageous claims" that were exposed during the trial."

Great successor to the noble bloodline that enjoyed benefits of the work of serfs they owned.

What if I want to discover a new better way to write code?

Interestingly, Medusa has status of foreign agent and undesirable organization in Russia so its website is blocked, but telegram channel is freely available. Similarly, euronews and svoboda are banned from broadcasting and their websites are blocked.

This one is American state propaganda: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Europe/Radio_Libert...

In Europe there is no effort to write news in Russian

Not true. For example: https://t.me/russian_euronews

The most popular anti-Putin channels are run by Russian emigrants based in the EU, like this one: https://t.me/meduzalive

The error is caused by an APC that calls exception-throwing C++ code

The article doesn't say it was a C++ exception. Could've been a SEH exception.

a lot of that GDP is debatable in 2024

While the share of services in the US GDP is more than 3/4. What will you do with all these expensive NY lawyers when push comes to shove? Sue China's drones?

Be worried then

If you seriously think it's possible, than you yourself should be worried a lot -- the last thing the West needs is even stronger China with its enormous industrial base and control of Siberian resources.

russia had no such qualms.

Neither does the Ukraine or the US.

Thanks, that's interesting, I didn't think numbers have changed so much.

What do Germans think about the fact that either Ukraine, which received tens of billions of euros in money and weapons from Germany, or the US, who is Germany's ally, blew up the Nord Stream?

The US had to literally rescue Germany from itself by blowing up Nordstream

I wonder what rescued Germans think about that.

Romanias GDP jumped from 122 billion to 214 billion from 2006 to 2008 after joining in 2007.

Looks like some creative accounting. Real GDP cannot almost double in two years.

I thought they joined NATO to feel more secure

The idea that WWII is why America is on top is a-historical.

How so?

You should have said "any victim but Crimea" then.

Sorry about that

the jet was shot down immediately

By the same forces that later tried to overthrow democratically elected president of Turkey.

Have I missed something or you (who are 'we', btw?) are at war with Germany which owns half of Nord Stream? I think German citizens need to know who is their real enemy.

Europe clings to the hope that the rules-based international order that—at this point—everyone is abandoning

That's funny. It died when the US invaded Iraq in 2003 and the EU continued business as usual.

Was the Iraq war a joint war of the US and Ukraine against Iraq? [0] If you say it was, then okay, the exercise was joint too.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_involvement_in_the_I...

My apologies then.

Some of them suffered minor damage is not the same as you claiming it was just incidents involving medical personnel.

Source for one inflated number (742) contained incidents with individual medics along with damaged facilities, the source that you provided next includes buildings with broken windows.

I really don't care what you discard or not.

That's your right, but I cared to explain why "Dude I am from Ukraine" and numbers coming solely from the Ukrainian government aren't trustworthy.

Russia is an expansionist colonial empire trying to retake it's former colonies by any means including force.

That's a very odd use of the word 'colony'. Where have you seen a colony where its metropole developed aerospace and shipbuilding industry, for example?

They were 'joint' because the Ukraine used a test range in Crimea that belongs to Russian Black Sea fleet based in Sevastopol. All launches were authorized by Ukrainians, Russians fired a single short-range missile and that's it. But, yeah, let's call it joint Russian-Ukrainian to shift the blame towards Russians.

You can read the details here using google translate if you like: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Катастрофа_Ту-154_над_Чёрным_м...

Maybe people complain because Ukrainian government was caught lying too many times? Like when Zelensky announced that Russians killed all border guards on the Snake Island after one of them said "Russian warship, go f*ck yourself". Needless to say, the border guards were returned to the Ukraine alive a week or two later. [0] After learning that cold-blooded murder of the border guards was one big lie I discount 90% of Ukrainian reports of Russian atrocities.

Anyway, let me quote your source: "These are medical facilities in the de-occupied territories, as well as those that have suffered minor damage: broken windows, roof destruction, damage to the facade, etc. " Broken windows from blast waves hardly fit your claim of "destroyed hospitals and clinics".

Or take this one [0]: "A few days before the attack, Ukrainian soldiers took up positions inside the nursing home, effectively making the building a target.

Two weeks after Russia invaded Ukraine in February, Russian forces assaulted a nursing home in Stara Krasnyanka in the eastern Luhansk region. "

What Ukrainian soldiers did was a war crime, but that case surely is somewhere in your number of medical facilities destroyed by Russians.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_Island_campaign#Status_o...

[1] https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-zelenskyy-dismisses-ambassador...

That's the total number of incidents involving medics according to some report, some of them involve hospitals and many don't.

Why not if all patients were evacuated long ago and the hospital was used by Syrian "rebels"?

joint Russian/Ukrainian exercise

Nope, that was Ukrainian exercise