Wistia sounds very interesting. What's the point of knowing how audience is watching? What are the metrics you want to measure?
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Hey @89a, can you detail which is the joke? Maybe what we did is stupid. But that's what we genuinely thought, tried and shared. We are serious to develop a good enough Instagram ipad app as we're not satisfied with existing solutions. And that's why people love our app even there are already dozens out there.
looking at competitors or parent product (in my case "Instagram") is definitely effective. However, i have to take the copycat name...
Designer is very expensive for sure. Which country are your designers from? Mine is india, so relatively cheap.
If going into interaction details, i would prefer to work face to face as communication would become a problem. And in-house designer would be more than $500, i guess...
i definitely upvote this! We have been hesitating on what we did. We're going to make something ourselves are happy with in next version. I will keep sharing. stay tuned
Thanks @digitalengineer for this meaningful discussion. Yes we absolutely should build up our own design team. Blindly keep trying woundn't work either.
It's still the art of balancing. Trying various ways in the beginning, and at some time point, we should tight up all kinds of resources and build up our own for key resources. Design is resources with key value.
Compared with criticism about copycat or intentional confusion, I like your constructive suggestion. We're a young startup and Padgram is our baby. We might not be doing well but we've tried the best. And we're sharing what we learned.
Good thinking's, definitely worth trying...
hi @JohnCastle, for the top Instagram apps, the names are: - InstaPad - InstaBrowser - InstaMap
And web services: - Webstagram
I think the problem is in nature in what we're doing. It's an Instagram app, how can user recognize you without a perceptive name?
And see what's happening on Twitter is more persuasive. Almost all Twitter apps' icon is a bird, but people still love Tweetbot to death.
I am open to constructive suggestions.
If you look at all Instagram apps in the store, you'll find there are many Instagram apps designed with a 'camera' icon. We're definitely not the first one.
Do you know 'Pinstagram'? They just changed the name to "Pictacular", and it's based in the US. I dont want to say you're making discrimination over non US-based companies. And I don't think it's right to infringe Instagram brand. If i am not doing right, i am happy to change immediately.
I did both. I think people are more interested in #2 (because it's outsourced and the icon itself is a 'camera'), but #1 is definitely one of the reasons
Hi @reidrac, i guess you're right. Anyway it's an Instagram iPad app, the simplest way to make user accept an app is make him/her understand what the app does at first glance. The new icon better conveys the info
thanks for the comments, @francov88, i will keep up the work and keep sharing. Up to now, I think Padgram still has potential to grow. Among all the Instagram iPad app, Padgram has relatively good design and distinguishing features. I will share more data as it goes.
gotcha, thanks,
nice...
hmm, upper left has no camera, i think...
I would still suggest trying. If you're not satisfied with what's offered, you can reject it, it does no harm. And Elancer has many options to try.
But if without trying, devs will never be able to make an satisfying icon (at least for me). We cannot stay there waiting for Apples to sentence the app's death.
Appreciate for your comments, if you try it and provide more comments, that would be perfect :-)
i dont think Apple would consider this, :-(, that's why i wrote and shared it, as Apple is unlikely to figure out for us...
Hi @raverbashing, i read "Wooden texture is a fashionable design in 2012" somewhere, but i forgot where it was...
what's the full name of "skeuomorphism"? so that i can check it in App Store..
as a young startup, it's important to balance between attractiveness and expense, Dribbble is too expensive for me...
Thanks @digitalengineer for your comments, yes it's relatively cheep from all the offering's. Actually this is my first try, and the result absolutely exceeds my expectation. i guess it's because the designer is from India, so the cost is kept low. i dont think it's possible in US or EU...
And the story of why we developed InstaPin: http://www.pinssible.com/blog/2012/06/instapin-creatively-ex...
Hey guys, we decide to use 'EasyNip'. Thanks for all of your suggestions :-)
Hi WiseWease, Thanks very much for your suggestion, we decide to use EasyNip as the new name.
If you like, you can send your correspondence address to my personal email (paul_yan@pinssible.com), as i promised, i'l send a gift to you :-)
'tinip' is very creative, if people can understand it correctly
Yes, they allow "xxxx for Pinterest"
thanks sadow, sounds very interesting. i l try it
thanks WiseWeasel, EasyNip is very close to easypin. are you also developing apps?
Thanks for all your advices. So far I think "EasyFast" could be my favorite. As "Pin" is used as verb to represent the action to publish a photo, so i'm hesitating to use another verb like 'Push', 'Tack', 'Stick', 'Peen'. They might be new to users.
EasyFast uses two adjectives. It's independent of what action is done, so we can avoid using "Pin". And I like the meaning of "Fast" to indicate "fasten"
This is so far the option i favor of. Thanks for all your help to think about this. And i'm open to new advices. I hope to get the perfect name, and if you guys can help trying the app and send comments (paul_yan@pinssible.com), i would appreciate.
Thanks @repsilat, "Push" or "Post" are seen used more for Facebook as they have the wall, while for Pinterest, the used verb is 'Pin'.