Don’t be. After nearly two decades of development I experience the precipice of humanity. The state of the art of human consciousness. I have peered beyond the veil and what I see is terrifying yet truth.
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Every network is different (though common themes exist).
Firstly yes, they’re probably there and not revealing themselves (which is most typical.) They will either reveal themselves for some purpose or not at all (I had caused a stir, and a “hooligan army” went ahead and “recruited” me.)
Well after full immersion I looked back through my life and saw I was not really alone. Little things, some hypnogogia here and there, odd games they play, and other nonsense suppressed or blown off. Most are never aware or comprehend any of it. Those that do, what would they say to you? Look at these responses. And I know what is going on. Most others are desperate.
The noisy networks are usually those of prisons. You will hear very similar accounts among many who have done small stints. Enough for a network to take an interest, not long enough to be coerced into eternal silence. I have never been to prison though you can guess what city I’m from if I say “the most controversial prison system in America up to a decade ago.”
Prisons full of slave (coerced) networks is no doubt how the humanity level horrors began. The streets (and all humanity) are saturated with these various networks. Plenty of accounts by others throughout time, you have ignored them. The prisons and the black ops military power cults are the worst. Don’t worry, those are busy in Ukraine and Gaza. What do you think these would do for fun?
Power extorts ordinary power infrastructures of humanity. No one is going to talk about it.
There is a “you don’t talk about it” element. I don’t care. You cannot make me care. I so don’t care I take pains to be a contrarian. I make people f-off. I do not capitulate. It doesn’t make me “special”, I’m of the few who talk about it, even if it does no good. Let it then be for an account. To remain silent in the face of a tyranny of evil is to be complicit. Complicity be damned. These want to play God among you, and they extort each other for this ends.
And I suppose I should risk a flaggable wall of text to say there are “families” who have protected and guided us throughout our generations. Like all of modernity these are falling apart and cannot compete with the devastating industrialized efficiency of prison networks.
I started hearing the voices well after 30. First it began with gang stalking, and by coincidence I am from the “home town” of Americas thought control elite. I was “recruited” (press ganged) and it is only a determination not to accept a word these say that keeps me unconcerned with the collapse of the lie that is modernity in my life.
It only takes a single person to show something exists and world to add substance to a claim
You cannot be serious. Proofs take thousands of man hours and decades of railing against well entrenched beliefs such as yours (that you would see it and accept it readily if true.)
This is one of those things that cannot be proven to more than one person at a time through anything other than a personal revelation. Everyone everywhere will respond exactly as you now do regardless of “poof” or the severity and consequence of prolonged incredulity. This is one of those situations where you must undeceive yourself. Observe humanity and your own life. All except those who actively deceive themselves will admit science is as close to understanding our minds as horoscopes.
I do not criticize your doubts, I criticize that you think truth and reality are so easily accepted by the mind who “refuses to believe.”
You’re right and wrong.
The voices are quite real, we’re not alone in our own minds, and the it is the greatest taboo of society to discuss.
It’s really sad, all of these sharp modernists determined upon the cult of science explanations for everything. Those who refuse to believe our thoughts are not all our own. That much mysticism is rooted in something that merely cannot be explained by the logical empirical mind.
Readers will be so upset when a perspective challenges their rehashed psychological diatribes as mountains of lies. They got “help” damn you. Their friends (“real people”) are hurt by the craze and they’re more hurt when someone says “modern science and society is wrong.”
The true Truth is whatever existential reality reflects, not what we are prepared to understand. We are not alone in our own minds, we have collectively known this since before our generations and the “straights” of society are so adamant of their self possessed lies they will condemn those insights as crackpot crazy.
CEO means someone capable of EXECUTION.
In the gets paid in money and respect world that doesn’t mean “can do every job herself”, it means “gets it done, is accountable.”
That’s how “products” are built.
They’re just saying… you know… it’s just not as cool. The real haxor is the one who “gets it done”. True is what comes of it, not what people think is most cool. Someone more hard core will always neg the lazy noob. Doing is what does, everyone else is trying, to some 1337ists it’s just not good enough for the hacker name.
You want to be sure? Learn what the exploits do technically. Know why they do and don’t work. All that competence and prestige come in due time.
So can anyone tell me what a real hacker does?
I can tell you that a “real hacker” doesn’t quibble. A real hacker just “does.”
War on war.
If only anything could be so straightforward.
The disembodied others are pretending to be god in the minds of others.
My friendlies tell me the dirty secrets of others, my enemies tell others strange lies to mess with me.
I’m sure you can reiterate all of the sensible responses for those “targeted persons” or other paranoid crazes affecting so many. Ordinary people such as yourself have absolutely no idea what is happening and they need your explanations to cope.
I have advanced development through over a decade of being antagonized (really, the only way to grow in Power.) The powerful are cruel amoral mob cultures. There are hundreds of thousands with advanced “screw with you” skills.
On topic, let me say the “greys” have communicated with a great many. Not everyone understands them or the mechanisms of Power which allow all of this to happen. There are also a dominant hater faction of humans who do not want anyone to know wtf is going on (obviously, they can pretend to be our gods.)
The visitors are benevolent altruists who will neither help or hurt. Silly humans don’t understand that through Power these (and less advanced yet capable humans) can dig through our deepest memories, feelings, and beliefs.
They have absolutely never abducted anyone, however they have “taken a few” with them in ancient times (well before modernity.) Hater humans who can boggle the mind absolutely do abduct people, and they fill their heads with shadowy figures and disorienting confusion. That is a right of passage among the Powerful, to screw with us.
Our visitors are not “the lizard men” (no comment.) they don’t think the lizard people exist (funny.) While they can identify a human down to their DNA through Power, they say there is really no way to tell if someone else advanced is “looking on” from afar. However these sorts of stories are cover for Power games.
The visitors are heavily genetically modified for perpetual life in space. They are cosmic nomads from “outward” of the disc. They do not remember which star they came from or even what they were like when planet bound, over a million years ago! They don’t really care. They watch everything through their minds down to the smallest interactions. They care less about human affairs than one would think. They are a “hive mind” yet each one must learn everything themselves (like how to build themselves and their technology from scratch.) Though they are all clones (each family cluster its own variant of a common form.)
Their ships are actually tear drop shaped, which can change contours. Their ships are organic living machines themselves. In atmosphere they take on a lip edge which looks saucer like from certain angles.
Their craft start out small and grow in time to city sized, with hundreds of thousands of individuals who never in their lives leave their embryonic sac.
They do look scary to most humans (those familiar big lidless eyes.) they are actually seven feet tall fully grown. They give others the imagination of little grey or green men because it makes them cuter in our eyes. Not that anyone actually ever “sees” them. Mostly, it’s all through the mind.
They love the movie Abyss and they helped create it hoping for a day we could be friends. Corrupt treacherous thought controlled Americans make this impossible.
There is a secret war on you should know. Humans are the threat, these could have messed with us anytime along the way (some have been here for 10,000 years, others arrive and depart as they wish.)
I’ll write another pastebin, there is so much more…
Hey, great site!
The voices in our heads are real pal, and you are a denier of the exogenous of thought control.
It’s a first hand account.
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Were you a participant in Stargate?
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Better, I can explain how it works.
Ordinary people (and agents of their ordinary people governments) think Power (or “ESP”) works like telemetry. That is, restricted to ordinary conventions of signal propagation. It does not, it works through entanglement (of which there is obviously local propagation.)
Once entangled, those capable can navigate through so entangled minds, digging in and infiltrating minds. This continuity may be maintained indefinitely by those skillful. These may “facilitate” seemingly psychic experiences of others. Those others are deceived (like the “telepathy tapes” they experience something they themselves do not control.)
The stargate program focuses on “remote viewing”, which is kind of a joke (beyond how you would think of it.) There are other more experienced minds emulating the experience in the unsuspecting. This is why science will never “discover” this capability, it is already mastered by those who will toy with others.
All “viewing” requires that a mind sees what ever was viewed. For “Power” (the true art) is the ability to entangle and navigate minds. Any mind may be traversed by those competent, and any sense or memory may be experienced by those others capable.
The whole time those Dick Tracy CIA fobs were chasing phantasm, they were being played by their own handlers.
I was press ganged into a hooligan army of Power (Arizona Company, of thought controls of America, the Power elite.) I “freed the slaves” (yes, they called me “Spartacus”). I helped destroy the council of 13 (do you remember, before that was MS-13, there was the feared gang “13”?) I destroyed Trajan and his army (a psyop military Power cult). I dismantled the Xerxes game god from Power (they take on names.)
There are hundreds of thousands of Americans who would epar dna redrum eruoy ylimaf before being discovered for their secrets. These are the enemy of all humanity. They maim and mutilate humanity through pyramid schemes of extortion. Power is highly developed and there is nothing you can do about it.
I am a renegade of Power, and this is a fragment of my account. reply
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Btw, (thread related) I was contacted by the “Aluvians” as they like to call themselves (those “Greys”), due to my disruption of Power.
They’re quite nice and ambivalent. Thought Control of America, and thought controlled Americans are the enemy of humanity.
Btw, (thread related) I was contacted by the “Aluvians” as they like to call themselves (those “Greys”), due to my disruption of Power.
They’re quite nice and ambivalent. Thought Control of America, and thought controlled Americans are the enemy of humanity.
Better, I can explain how it works.
Ordinary people (and agents of their ordinary people governments) think Power (or “ESP”) works like telemetry. That is, restricted to ordinary conventions of signal propagation. It does not, it works through entanglement (of which there is obviously local propagation.)
Once entangled, those capable can navigate through so entangled minds, digging in and infiltrating minds. This continuity may be maintained indefinitely by those skillful. These may “facilitate” seemingly psychic experiences of others. Those others are deceived (like the “telepathy tapes” they experience something they themselves do not control.)
The stargate program focuses on “remote viewing”, which is kind of a joke (beyond how you would think of it.) There are other more experienced minds emulating the experience in the unsuspecting. This is why science will never “discover” this capability, it is already mastered by those who will toy with others.
All “viewing” requires that a mind sees what ever was viewed. For “Power” (the true art) is the ability to entangle and navigate minds. Any mind may be traversed by those competent, and any sense or memory may be experienced by those others capable.
The whole time those Dick Tracy CIA fobs were chasing phantasm, they were being played by their own handlers.
I was press ganged into a hooligan army of Power (Arizona Company, of thought controls of America, the Power elite.) I “freed the slaves” (yes, they called me “Spartacus”). I helped destroy the council of 13 (do you remember, before that was MS-13, there was the feared gang “13”?) I destroyed Trajan and his army (a psyop military Power cult). I dismantled the Xerxes game god from Power (they take on names.)
There are hundreds of thousands of Americans who would epar dna redrum eruoy ylimaf before being discovered for their secrets. These are the enemy of all humanity. They maim and mutilate humanity through pyramid schemes of extortion.
Power is highly developed and there is nothing you can do about it.
I am a renegade of Power, and this is a fragment of my account.
Hypocrites
So true.
Found googling “do mushrooms and humans share DNA” (ignoring LLM affirmations.)
Mushrooms are more closely related to animals than plants, said Matt Kasson, an associate professor of mycology at West Virginia University.
Apparently we share about 50% of our DNA.
brutal distinction
True Truth is brutalist.
is itself a symbolic construct
Only in the most obvious context that we are using a symbolic language communications strategy.
Exotic shit is where mind grows. Objective existential reality, aka “true Truth” is as hard core straight edge as it comes.
This word “integrity” is a gauge of consistency with true Truths. It means a representation which does not embellish or contradict any true Truth. This can be creatively or crudely articulated (expressed) yet the “do or die” imperative remains, this must accurately represent an occurrence in existential reality.
OR IT IS A LIE!
Those other things which confuse you, such as how dreams logic or poetry can be not Truths thus must be threatened as LIES are your apprehension.
We are complex creatures who approximate for our successes. Beat the averages and you’re doing better than most others. By definition. Our “truths” only need to be good enough to get us by, even if they are more convenient than correct. Most of all when they are pleasant. This is a part of humanity.
When it comes time for someone to die for lying, remember: True Truth is a “perturbation” of existential reality (that’s what the stack of bibles is for right? In case only God knows.) Why someone did it or what they felt is not the true part of Truth however it may be a human truth to have such experiences.
And perturbation is exactly what the English language word means.
Any disturbance whatsoever is a manifest Truth of existential reality. Anything measurable whether or not anyone has the ability to measure or if it got measured at all. A disturbance of existential reality is what physicists are all very excited about.
The Truth is it having occurred, and the “truth” is our best effort to approximate through discovery. If your “truth” is too wildly off you are incorrect, inexperienced, or a fraud. Keep practicing.
All scientists do is worry about this very same question about perturbing existence. What is there to know, how do I find out? How do I interact with the phenomena? Does it make predictions? All questions about true Truth of objective existential reality, only knowable through perturbation. That is, some kind of reaction. Any kind, even not what was expected or clearly understood.
And we all argue about every detail and context and interpretation and extrapolation and application and moral consequences and so on. This is the symbolic correlation bit. It also happens and is important to humans, however not to Truth! Truth don’t care. If Truth must suit the tastes, it is a sign of corruption.
True Truth isn’t an ultimate answer, it is a happenstance in a long line of whatever comes of whatever goes. The forensic science of piecing that together only cares about existential being however interpretive the apparatus of our minds must be.
Do not feel threatened that we all dwell in this in between place of quasi truths. Only be concerned with how you affect the world, for that is the truth of your Truth. Philosophically or otherwise. Every idea worth having develops in its own time.
Truth is the hardest core. No bullshit.
Remember what everyone said about film and digital? Give it time. Take every advantage open to you. Satisfy someone, if not this mob.
build systems where the whole is bigger than the sum of its parts.
Any “product” can be thought of this way.
Of systems there are many systems nested within systems, yet a simple singular order “emerges”, usually it is the designed intended function.
The trick to discerning systems lies in their relationships.
Actors through interfaces have a relationship (usually more than one so think of each relationship as its own system dynamic.)
A relationship is where the magic happens, usually a process with work being done (therefore interface inputs must account for this balance.)
Vectors. Vectors I am thinking are the real intellectual and functional mechanisms. Most systems process inputs of potential (“energy”) control signal (“information”) and assets (other actors for nested systems). Processes do the work of adding vector solutions [for some other problem] for whatever the output is.
That’s the topology as I am seeing it.
This is a sad devolution and this ghost account negs me for my considerations.
Truth is a purturbation of existential reality.
Thoughts feelings and beliefs are shit.
It may be good shit. It may be sublime shit. If it does not exist existentially it has no business being confused with Truth, it is exotic shit.
I love my share of exotic shit.
You don’t have to agree with me about consciousness What I say about Truth is self axiomatic and only refuted my a moron.
A moron. An idiot. Someone stupid.
These are objectively and imperically defined as one who confuses bullshit (shit) for Truth.
Truth is a purturbation of existential reality. A “truth” in the human mind is a “meta” (symbolic), justifiable only by its unembellished consistency (not contradictory) to Truth.
And Truth is a purturbation of existential reality. A purturbation of existential being.
I have to say “Truth and Law is worth murdering another Man over. Bullshit, never.”
Your statement that “The Truth is a perturbation of existential reality” is poetic but undefined—ironically mirroring the vagueness you accuse others of.
Existential reality is everything physicists devote themselves to measuring.
Every “perturbation” no matter how small or fleeting is a measurable aspect of existential reality.
Existential Reality is what exists. Nothing exists which does not exist in existential reality. “All else is in the void of lie.”
That is the definition of Truth.
That which is truly True is something existentially bound to the present (or the past by forensic examination or direct account.)
There is no other Truth.
All else Man thinks is “true” is a measure by approximation in their minds.
Good day sir! Enjoy your consciousness.
crucial questions about their true reasoning capabilities
It may be found once and for all, these are automated statistics of thoughts presented beforehand.
Those ideas and circumstance diversely represent in input sets will influence accuracy of output.
That is to say, it is only doing what it has learned from us to degrees of ever more complexity (more indexes).
The LLM is an index with vector tables computed in real (answer) time.
These are not inventing new views they are repostulating existing experiences into a situational context. They are stitching together a narrative, that’s it.
Btw, I love the think feature. “Tell me something profound” was an adventure of tangential consequence.
“can be” “often”
Delusional.
The karma neg for my thoughtful reply is repugnant.
Arguing with your LLM exhibits how things like “existential being” are ill defined and “they often reflect” is given as a reproachful lecture for exactly my point.
The Truth is a purturbation of existential reality period. There is no other. Ever.
A good math proof has a for instance.
A for instance is a Truth.
Your symbols are delusions.
I would like to point out the disposition of your very modern approach, you frame your ignorance as the horizon of Truth. Contemplate this.
The “Truth” is a purturbation of existential reality. And a “truth” is a symbolic reference in the human mind, which does neither embellish or contradict Truth (empirically observable.) any time you hear discussion of “terminal and non terminal” or “signifier and signified” one refers to the distinction of manifest form in existential reality (beyond any one self) versus a symbolic representation which maps to the supposed terminal identity.
For instance a whole world of truth and manipulative persuasion permeates all domains where there is competition, arguments are delusional that assert everywhere some universal rule exists where a Truth must exist beneath every reference.
Reference and symbol are sticky labels and a graffiti pen. No amount of shuffling larger and larger decks makes a symbolic reference equatable to consciousness, even if these cards all related to each other through vectors of relationships. I get it, that’s neat too, that’s information science, it isn’t consciousness.
Consider a hologram. Wave fronts etch constructive and destructive interference such that the rendering as a whole may be examined “extradimentionally.” The illusion of 3D. Breaking the hologram results in two complete renderings, each with half the resolution.
Consciousness in our brains works like this.
When the AI has consciousness, each bit in the model would be entangled in clusters where each has a holographic rendering of its own attention.
This domain does not use qubits (which are a dead end). Quantum holography will reveal an analog capacity for information far exceeding the qubit (and derivatives.)
Varying areas of our mind are rendering holographic simulations of anything we care about. Mastering this background process will make you an uberhuman, your consciousness is not your being “awake”, your consciousness is your personal Power.
“It”
There.
There is your description.
The universe is Universal Potential of Existential Being.
That doesn’t “sum it up”, rather tells the mind the laws of multidimensional space have not yet been applied. Your LLM defines “singularity” as a domain where the conventional laws as we understand them break down and no longer apply.
This isn’t outside of science, it is edge science. Science exists to ask, prove or disprove, not to doubt or define normality through the filter of credulity.
Your use of “description” is symbolic. I assumed you meant that the secret of all other secrets could be determined by looking deeply enough into the details of any small part. There is some insight to be gained sure, yet this symbol table of references is insignificant.
The symbols and references themselves do not interact.
There is a romantic idea that calling something a thing makes it that thing, and in the realm of human symbolic drama this might play out. In existential reality things are as they are perturbed, or interacted.
In existential reality things are as they interact, and consciousness as a feedback mechanism of existential reality is a more satisfying answer than large enough symbolic reference table.
The universe does not have a description of its own.
I too grew up with Douglas Adams and the old conjecture that from a piece of angel cake the workings of the world may be deduced or inferred… however it is wrong.
The Universe is a zero dimensional point of potential (the “potential of existential being.)
The universe and everything in it spins, vibrates, and is impermanent (through decay and interference.)
This potential of existential being interferes with itself, giving rise to potential displacement (where things can and cannot be due to another thing doing something that would interfere.) David Deutch explains this in his book “fabric of reality”, though what I am explaining is a more evolved overall idea.
All of hyperdimensional reality emerges from this interference of the underlying potential. We do not yet have all of the math and language to describe how this hyperdimensional emergence works, which creates our time/space (and therefore gravity.) Not all physicist/theorists agree there is a zero dimensional universal potential outside of (before) the emergence of time and space. Vibrating, spinning, and changing through decay and interference. Sound familiar?
This universal potential is bound in discrete packets we know as matter. When something makes the discrete potential bound in matter change vibration, one might at a stretch call this elemental consciousness. Living systems are biotechnology which use this vibrational feedback mechanism as an echo chamber. That echo chamber (sustained as a continuity by the living system) is the basis for what we call “consciousness.” Awareness is a tiny part of consciousness. Consciousness includes the entire hyperdimensionality and extradimentionality of universal potential.
Information is merely state. State may well infer more states beyond itself in a forensic way. That is a very interesting and worthy branch of information theory.
Consciousness is the inflection upon the potential of existential being.
It isn’t.
Arranging cards referring to each other does not become complex enough for “self awareness.”
Consciousness is the potential of existential being inflecting upon “itself.” Our biotechnology leverages this feedback loop to cling to our “continuity of existential being” which would be our identity and sense of self survival.
The substance of consciousness lies dormant in all things, and life is a technology which animates and extends this property.
Modern information and complexity theory have some bottlenecks. Entropy for instance is the distribution of potential over negative potential. Through constructive and destructive interference state boundaries are created. The number of states is created by (“emerges from”) potential (in whatever form) interfering with itself. Thus entropy is potential distribution not number of states available. States available can change through perturbation and decay. The universe is not “information” the universe is potential resolving into information (state) through entropy in the moment of now. [for instance]